ZOMG, I found a Zod. Ok. Guys, I saw in the SPTF all these reactiosn to CoS's banning. Before, usually people got banned before they had too big of an effect on the item pool of the SPF. However, CoS being such a big trader, many of you are reeling in the effects of the trades. Look, the SPF works solely on trust. And in this world of people who are inherently greedy, this is bound to cause some problems sometimes. It is incredibly easy to hack, trade and post atma readouts in this community without ever being caught. As long as a hacker doesn't make a blatant mistake, he/she will never be caught. That being said, I don't think people join the SPF with the intention of ever hacking. However, some are not as wealthy as existing members, and seeing "high rune" finds in the item find thread, are enough to tempt many a person. I mean honestly, over the past few months, I have seen so many people "claim" to have found high runes. I am not saying these people are cheating, or hackors, because Diablo II is like that. Its all about luck. I have been tempted once or twice, when I've seen a few people finding Lo's or Surs, for I too, would gladly like to get these runes. For a moment or two, I would think "what if I were to just to dupe a rune, and fake a screenshot". Then I would be a Lo richer, and nobody the poorer.That being said, I alsothought; if I could jsut duplicate and find Lo's that would mean if I ever really found a Lo, it wouldn't really be as great as if I knew I had "legitimately" found the runes. I knew that if I duped a Vex, I would not have felt as happy when I actually have fun. You're cheating yourself of the game if you do. I then go back to hellforge rushing :grin: What I"m saying is, in the SPF, you have to accept that there are amongst us, a given amount of cheaters. Even the greatest optimist must acknowledge that when it is so easy to cheat and so hard to be caught, there will be those who indulge themselves. How do you avoid getting tainted then? This is how I do it; I read the itemfind thread/trade threads and I create a mental list of people who's finds I view as suspicious. I would never make an accusation on the legitimacy of these items. But what I now do do is that I try to avoid trading/mping with people who I feel maybe illegitimate. I also try to avoid trading for items that will go on Mfers/PvMers. Most of my items these days that I trade for are items for my PvPers. Of course, for those who only PvM this isn't very helpful, but really, for PvM, there are very few items that don't have substitutes, so there is no real need for greatly active trading. For PvP characters, they will not find many items and I would be willing to remake them if I needed. I also only trade over the forums unless I know the person in real life (AKA I can go to his house and give him a few whacks if he hacked and traded with me). I really don't care if you hack/dupe if you don't MP/Trade. For example DC: I"m not saying he does at all (I've defended him in another thread), but when I see him reroll all those high vitality skillers/find that cham; I thought for a second; "he hacks". However, after a few more seconds passed, I realized that if he does play that much, those finds are very achievable (thinks back to the MFO), and then after that I thought; Who the hell cares? If its all fake, so he got some "e-praise" for what he knows is a "false accomplishment". I have traded a few items with CoS in the past, and I've located them both (a 39ed jewel that had not yet been socketed and a homunculus I have not used yet (I thought I lost my old one but retrieved it shortly after the trade)) and deleted both of them. That being said, I believe that CoS's previous items were all legit. After all, he did not boast considerable wealth or anything like that. Also, his "fake find" was rather clumsily done with a readout of a 1.07-9 item, making it seeming like it was the first time he tried to do it (gave into the temptation of finding one because so many others have found high runes recently). That being said, to be sure, I have deleted the items I have recieved in a trade, but feel that the Mods should give people the option to not delete items "tainted" buy CoS's items. Finally, This is a long thread, but I hope some of you take the time to read it. It may not be my place to say all that I said, as I am not entirely the "most legit" poster on this forum (as in most definitely not a hacker), but these are my views, and with all these post all over the place, I felt it would be better if there was a thread for it. Edit: Removed two paragraphs as they included some thoughts on "groups of people" I felt suspicious of which on second thought is not really helpful. Also, as Salvo still has a bunch of items to giveaway, I"ll try to refurbish items lost through his stashes if the recipients are up for it.