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Zealot vs WWBarb help needed

Discussion in 'PvP' started by Useratuaer, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. Useratuaer

    Useratuaer IncGamers Member

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    Zealot vs WWBarb help needed

    Hi, I need some help with my zealot vs WW barbs im just getting owned. Heres my gear:

    Ber Coa
    Archon Enigma (strength bonus)
    Dungos
    Dracs
    War Travs
    Hoz
    Doom (freeze is nice)
    Raven/Angelics combo

    No gcs but I do have 2 50 pdscs and a 15 poison 3 res charm.
     
  2. Bigrob

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    u need to get better on the charms. look for max/ar charms.

    btw, do not use doom against ww barb, u will give him more advantage.

    Just to let u know, zealot has little chance against ww barb.
     
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    RetroStar IncGamers Member

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    Ya, my WW Barb has yet to lose to a Zealot yet. Try charging them when they are NOT whirling and give it a zeal. You'll be screwed if you charge them when they whirl.
     
  4. Lyrs

    Lyrs IncGamers Member

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    Unless you want to teleport, do not use Enigma. Sure, you don't have to use as much strength, but you should consider other armors such as fortitude, duress, CoH, stone, or eth zodded Arks, etc. You'll want defense/DR.

    Upped Gores simply are better for pvp, i think, unless you already are loaded with DS/CB/OW.

    And yes, do not use Doom. Doom = slow = slower barb movement = you being in ww range longer. Go for a range 3 weapon. Most barbs use CB or Bzerks with are range 3.

    Do not use psn charms for dmg unless you are going all out 290's, and even then i wouldn't recommend it. Instead, load up on plain lifers, or fine vitas.

    Lastly, don't run after ww or charge into/at a barb. competent ones will give you a full face of ww. a good thing to do is turn off run. If the barb is only trying to clip you, as they should, the only thing you can do is walk into their path and smite/zeal. You might get hit, but you'll also have a better chance of hitting.
     
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    u need max/ar charms, plain vita sc does not help much.

    Useratuaer: If u cant afford max/ar/life charms, then get mix of plain vita scs and fine scs.
     
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    You could try teleporting in front of long whirls and shift-attacking. May help or may not. It works well for smiters, sometimes. I haven't done it myself but I've seen it done and had it done to me (on my ww sin). Also, get boatloads of defense.
     
  7. Useratuaer

    Useratuaer IncGamers Member

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    Well I found a guy who needed an enigma and I traded him it for an arch coh so im pretty happy with that, also I found some sanders gloves and they make me attack much faster, so I ditched the draculs. And lastly I decided im just not gonna mess with WW barbs :rolleyes:
     
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    1. Duress/Stone > CoH for Zealots on NL
    2. Draculs > Sanders Glove anytime I wouldn't make a Zealot without draculs
    3. Good choice :thumbsup:
     
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    I dont think this has been stressed enough:

    Do Not use doom vs ww barbs, it will get you hit more than without it and has useless damage compared to most other high end weapons

    get a grief zerker if on ladder or ebotd zerker if not


    swap the travs for upped gores
    ditch the enigma and get a fort, eth stone or eth duress

    just use the eth ones for harder duels - a non eth one will do most of the time

    Upgrade the zaka if you can still use it, maybe consider getting an exile instead.
     
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    Against good ww barbs?

    ...You don't...you kinda, just die...
     
  11. luis19

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    make a bvb barb
     
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    Or rather make a bva barb, since you'll be dueling mostly in pubs anyway. :lol:
     
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    I only play non ladder so greif and fort is outta the question. Also sure you can tell me to just "go get" all this stuff but I spent all my currency making this char.(my last non ladder char) Also whenever I use dracs people get made because of lifetap. Also I was in a pub and there were some ww barbs in there, instead of running I walked and I actually beat 1 he never beat me once. The other was a good match and I beat him a couple of times but he also beat me.
     
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    1) Pick your moments

    This involves making him miss his whirls. He'll get pissed, get overly agressive..chargesmackzeal charge away. Walk with vigor on..You'll not outpace his run, but his WW speed.

    2) You're a zealer
    - You statisically should not win.

    3) Use cover.

    Back that green clad arse of yours up against a wall in a corner...He can't whirl thru you, thusly you can zeal all you like..You'll be eating whirls..but still.

    4) Lose the doom.

    A slowed whirling barb simply means you are in his range for longer if you stumble into it. You must stay away from it at all costs...a good frozen WW will mean about 12 hits or so...
     
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    i think even with vigor, a barbs ww will go faster than a zealers walking. ww travels much faster than its displayed at. which is why its easy to desync with.

    dont charge... its a bad idea charging at a barb at all times since he always has the options of wwing away. lots of people say to use corners but personally, i used to ww zealers even if they were backed to the corner. it may be good against stupid barbs but good ones can work thier way in even if you corner yourself.

    yes lose the doom.. slow whirling barbs are the last thing you want to deal with. get as much defense as possible and exile. prolly the only things you can really do. try getting around 20kish ar too. you should have no problem hitting barbs unless they are bvbers.

    o ya... fill your entire invent with 20 life scs (it seems like your on budget gear, 20 life scs with second mods will boost your life significantly if your poor)
     
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    the barb can always insure a 100% win though by two means:
    widowmaker on switch
    2x doom on switch


    so make a bvb barb
     
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    that is cheat...

    but anyway, u dont need those. Just ebotd/grief + beast with proper ww then u can beat all zealots.
     
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    the word you are looking for it "cheap".
    if the pally doesnt like stackign auras or using other class skills, then no bo or exile, see how that works out.

    and widow/doom just makes it so there is no chance in hell the barb woudl lose and pisses ppl off.
     
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    a bvb with lifetap is much easier. ^_^

    u can just ww through them, ez.
     

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