yah, that is in ladder. But im talking about NL here, which will be very mess up after once the ladder season ends.Weltkriegpally said:I am well aware of how much life a non ladder bvc barb can get, since they have access to a multitude of duped charms. As far as grief +beast, nope, its really not that much damage. Thats what the bvcs I face are already using, and its not helping them much. But barbs have to give up some of their ar/ed to duel a zealot (think ber/ber coa) and even when they do, I still 2.5 shot ko them on my very craptacular zealot. so its still an advantage when used properly.