You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was? der=0

Yaboosh

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

This was actually intended to be about Terminator Salvation.

If that is true, then you might try not making a controversial statement in your original post about a popular, contemporary movie. It tends to spur discussion.



 

Moosashi

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Is there some kind of strange correlation between being right wing and having terrible taste in movies?
If your idea of terrible taste is to enjoy movies that are actually entertaining and therefore popular rather than low-budget, 50-year-old marginal cult films in incomprehensible languages, then maybe it just means right wingers aren't elitist snobs.

Close, I am right wing so it's a negative.
But not so right wing that you remembered to maintain that façade (one that's even less believable than you being Australian) when pointing out your idiotic "correlation".



 

Dondrei

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

If your idea of terrible taste is to enjoy movies that are actually entertaining and therefore popular rather than low-budget, 50-year-old marginal cult films in incomprehensible languages, then maybe it just means right wingers aren't elitist snobs.
???

Are you thinking of someone else?

But not so right wing that you remembered to maintain that façade (one that's even less believable than you being Australian) when pointing out your idiotic "correlation".
Heh, I made an idiot out of myself, seems like I'm highly qualified to be right wing actually.



 

Lazer LXXVII

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

If that is true, then you might try not making a controversial statement in your original post about a popular, contemporary movie. It tends to spur discussion.
Yeah i can tell now lol.

So how about that new Terminator movie?



 

jmervyn

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Heh, I made an idiot out of myself, seems like I'm highly qualified to be right wing actually.
We're used to you, and I doubt the righties are interested in your qualifications. They're far smarter than that.



 

Deechan

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

WTF is Terminator Salvation??? I don't know and I don't care. This isn't part of the movie. Why do you like that part so much about this movie?
Damn, maybe I liked the Coke bottles dancing like brainless idiots, or the popcorn bursting all white, or the cellular phone flipping open and starts talking. WOW awesome isn't it.
Oh wait damn it, that's the part I liked about "FREDDY GOT FINGERED"

And yeah it was VERY overrated but it is still better than ANYTHING in the theaters this year. And one of my favorite movies.

It's alright for YOU to not like the movie and didn't stand up for you but start a thread like "You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?" and your first statement "The teaser trailer for Terminator Salvation at the start." ARE YOU SERIOUS?
 

stillman

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

WTF is Terminator Salvation??? I don't know and I don't care. This isn't part of the movie. Why do you like that part so much about this movie?
Damn, maybe I liked the Coke bottles dancing like brainless idiots, or the popcorn bursting all white, or the cellular phone flipping open and starts talking. WOW awesome isn't it.
Oh wait damn it, that's the part I liked about "FREDDY GOT FINGERED"

And yeah it was VERY overrated but it is still better than ANYTHING in the theaters this year. And one of my favorite movies.

It's alright for YOU to not like the movie and didn't stand up for you but start a thread like "You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?" and your first statement "The teaser trailer for Terminator Salvation at the start." ARE YOU SERIOUS?
The bigger issure here is:

Movies are such crap nowadays that when an OK one comes out, people think it's pure greatness. Well it's not that great; it just doesn't suck too bad. We should be getting more for our money than just Ok movies. Where I live it costs like 10 bucks to goto the theatre. I was renting way better movies in the 80's for 2 bucks.


 

Moosashi

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

The bigger issure here is:

Movies are such crap nowadays that when an OK one comes out, people think it's pure greatness. Well it's not that great; it just doesn't suck too bad. We should be getting more for our money than just Ok movies. Where I live it costs like 10 bucks to goto the theatre. I was renting way better movies in the 80's for 2 bucks.
Actually, inflation aside, this suggests that movies have never been better. People are naturally inclined to romanticize the past. They judge historical pop culture by some select classics that managed to stand the test of time.



 

stillman

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

There is romanticizing from the past, but there is good reason for it.

The Dark Knight suffers from the same problem a lot of movies have these days. I mentioned earlier the problem with Batman's voice being too 'death metal' to the point where it ruined the movie for me. You could tell the makers were just hitting the Macho button in a vain attempt to make the movie better. I'll bet some smart movie worker had a more reasonalbe tone for Batman's voice, but then the director comes in and says, "Naw, hit the Macho button again; we want this movie to bring in more money." So they keep hitting the Macho button until batman sounds like a robot.

They can hit the Macho button all they want. They could get Batman to be on steroids, and they just keep feeding him more and more steroids until he is the buffest dude in town. They could make his voice as macho as they want, and they can make his eyes blacker and blacker, and they can give him a Bat Transfer Tuck. They can put all the fireball explosions in they want and make them bigger and better. But all this masculinization doesn't really make the movie much better. A good movie requires old fashioned good writing, good acting, a good crew working on it, and some originality.

The Dark Knight had some of these good qualities, but I still felt it was just some computer guys hitting the Macho button as hard as they could.

Older movies actually ARE better IMO, because they didn't have access to all the computers, special effects, and huge budgets of today. Older movies had to rely on good plot, story telling, acting, ect.
 

AeroJonesy

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

It all depends on what you want out of movies. If you want '80s flicks, then of course you're not going to like what's coming out now.
 

stillman

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

True.

It'd be nice to have some options though for today's movies.

For example: the Stephen King movie 1408. I thought it was really good. But, did you notice that appartment he was in got totally destroyed at least half a dozen times? The movie was good enough to stand up on its' own without the help of all the mass destruction effects. It seems there is pressure now to make EVERY last movie contain wide scale destruction like we saw on Independence Day.

But you know, it's about a haunted hotel room. The room getting deomolished, burned, forzen over, rained on, flooded out with a sea storm was clearly just some director pushing the Wide Scale Destruction button. "More destruction please! That's what's selling these days."

It is getting to a point where it's wrecking the movies, so to speak.

So if I go and see, idk, the next Mr. Bean movie, there's going to be a 30 minute earthquake in there taking over the flick.
 

Kaysaar

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

The Dark Knight suffers from the same problem a lot of movies have these days. I mentioned earlier the problem with Batman's voice being too 'death metal' to the point where it ruined the movie for me. You could tell the makers were just hitting the Macho button in a vain attempt to make the movie better. I'll bet some smart movie worker had a more reasonable tone for Batman's voice, but then the director comes in and says, "Naw, hit the Macho button again; we want this movie to bring in more money." So they keep hitting the Macho button until batman sounds like a robot.
There are actual reasons for his voice change that fit within the character's universe. The first that comes to mind is that Bruce Wayne is a high profile person in Gotham City, and by changing his voice, he protects his anonymity. Now which sounds more foreboding - a 'macho' voice, or if he raised his voice three octaves? Also, if he's trying to instill fear and loathing in another person, a deep and strong voice helps, whereas a weaker, more submissive voice doesn't accomplish this.

There have been many many great movies released in the modern era - some just take some looking to find. Letters from Iwo Jima for example was an excellent movie, as were V for Vendetta and Stranger than Fiction.



 

Dondrei

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Actually, inflation aside, this suggests that movies have never been better. People are naturally inclined to romanticize the past. They judge historical pop culture by some select classics that managed to stand the test of time.
Wow, if you really think that movies now are no worse than they were in the past then you're even further gone than I thought.

It all depends on what you want out of movies. If you want '80s flicks, then of course you're not going to like what's coming out now.
True. For instance, I have a strong preference for movies that don't suck nuts.

V for Vendetta
Ugh.



 

Ash Housewares

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

I still like 1989 Batman best

waiting on Watchmen

Moosashi is friggin insane, have you seen any older movies? or are you just guessing and failing horribly
 

jmervyn

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Moosashi is friggin insane, have you seen any older movies? or are you just guessing and failing horribly
Moo's point is debatable, sure, but I understand what he's saying. One person may consider MST3K material, while the other considers Lawrence of Arabia, Ben Hur, etc. When you consider that twaddle by Stephen Spielberg is considered the best contemporary Hollywood has to offer, I can completely get what he's saying.



 

Ash Housewares

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Moo's point is debatable, sure, but I understand what he's saying. One person may consider MST3K material, while the other considers Lawrence of Arabia, Ben Hur, etc. When you consider that twaddle by Stephen Spielberg is considered the best contemporary Hollywood has to offer, I can completely get what he's saying.
No .



 

Draconis

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Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

When you consider that twaddle by Stephen Spielberg is considered the best contemporary Hollywood has to offer, I can completely get what he's saying.
Conflating 'most popular' with 'best' ftl. Citizen Kane barely broke even at the box office.



 
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