You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was? der=0

[stillman]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Moosashi,

Ok, how about Excalibur. It's 1981 and they can't make a movie with that magnitude of greatness even with millions of dollars and every top computer/sound effect enhancments in the wolrd.

I admit the joker was played very well. But Jack Nicholson's performance, and that very first Batman movie was far superior and by far was the best batman movie. IIRC, there was a scene where Jack was just sitting there muttering 'oooop' and snickering or w/e for a while. They would never leave these nice touches in movies today. They make movies for ADHD kids and leave out these sorts of character building scenes.

The best way I can explain it is with the first Star Wars movie, A New Hope. There was a long long scene where Luke is stuck down there on the farm having to do his chores for his uncle, and he is gazing out at the 2 suns just knowing that he belongs out there. There is no dialogue at all, but we see the expression on his face and the scene goes on for a good while. This scene adds a ton of character and mood to the story, and we no longer have this sort of thing in newer movies. The Dark Night was very ADHD with its' very brief scenes and fast progression with no little breaks in between for us to absorb what just happened. It was hard to follow.

 

[AeroJonesy]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Nicholson's Joker is nowhere near as good as Ledger's. And it's got nothing to do with Ledger being dead.

 

[stillman]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Nicholson is in the Guiness Book of World Records for making the most money from a single movie, Batman. He had been smart enough to demand a percentage of the gross movie earnings, and of course, it turned out to be a great hit.

I'm sure The Dark Knight broke some records as well, but it's really a matter of opinion which actor did better. I was never happy with the whole original Batman movie 'never actually happening' if we ware to believe the newer 2 movies. If they're going to erase Batman movies, erase all the ones that came out after the first one.

 

[Lazer LXXVII]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Well regardless, the new clips they showed of Terminator Salvation look awesome.

I think this will be a good one, especially after T3 which we can just forget even existed.

 

[BobCox2]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

The Frank Miller Comic Book was good.

 

[pancakeman]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Dude... have you ever read original Batman? The Adam West version was deliberately campy and still it was not nearly as campy as those comics

No, I'm thinking of what Batman was first.
From Wikipedia's lovely Batman entry:

The first issue of the solo spin-off series Batman was notable not only for introducing two of his most persistent antagonists, the Joker and Catwoman, but for a story in which Batman shoots some monstrous giants to death. That story prompted editor Whitney Ellsworth to decree that the character could no longer kill or use a gun.

By 1942, the writers and artists behind the Batman comics had established most of the basic elements of the Batman mythos. In the years following World War II, DC Comics "adopted a postwar editorial direction that increasingly de-emphasized social commentary in favor of lighthearted juvenile fantasy." The impact of this editorial approach was evident in Batman comics of the postwar period; removed from the "bleak and menacing world" of the strips of the early 1940s, Batman was instead portrayed as a respectable citizen and paternal figure that inhabited a "bright and colorful" environment

Before he had the utility belt, or Robin, or even the Batmobile, he was just a guy who hated crime and vowed to beat the evil out of the city with his bare hands.



Watched the movie tonight, it was good. Not the spectacular piece of art that I had heard it was, but pretty good. Ledger's Joker was sort of...I don't know, it was just not what I expected of the Joker. The Joker always struck me as the sort who seems insane, but is really quite in control. This Joker was just crazy, and even with the explanation given (or explanations, which still confuses me) I was still hoping for more depth.
I guess the voice is for intimidating purposes, and it doesn't hurt when he is trying to mask his identity.
Worst part of movie: When he wrecked the Murcielago. I cried.

 

[Croup]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Well regardless, the new clips they showed of Terminator Salvation look awesome.

I think this will be a good one, especially after T3 which we can just forget even existed.

If T3 was so awful (and I agree that it was awful), why do you actually think this one will be good?

Note that you can't say "because Christian Bale is in it" otherwise you would have loved The Dark Knight.

 

[Lazer LXXVII]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

If T3 was so awful (and I agree that it was awful), why do you actually think this one will be good?

Note that you can't say "because Christian Bale is in it" otherwise you would have loved The Dark Knight.

Because T3 had a really pointless plot, everything that happened in that movie could have been omitted except for the final 3 minutes showing Judgment Day. It was a fun action movie, but plot-wise, it seemed kind of pointless.

Terminator Salvation is the first one to take place after Judgment Day, so its a fresh new start. Since they spent 3 full movies talking about Judgment Day and how John Connor will save humanity and blah blah blah, its about time we see it.

Im not confident that it will be good. But it looks extremely promising.

 

[Dondrei]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

I forget... did that start when Frank Miller hopped the train or did they start it a while before he caught the drift?

Pancake is right, though, there is a tragic vein in the character to begin with. And, uh, you're right in saying it didn't show very much at the start.

I believe that during the 70s and early 80s Batman was becoming more sombre, but I haven't personally read anything from that era so I don't know how far that goes. DKR is in the mid-80s I believe. It should be noted that all of Miller's Batman work is non-canon.

We're waiting.

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Only partially. <YOU'RE>** forgetting about the comic strip origins, where Batman was clearly more of a 'bad cop' figure than his contemporaries. I'd agree that the revamp in the 80's made much of the anti-hero aspect to the point that he's like a more cuddly version of The Punisher or Judge Dredd, but the character was always willing to physically abuse perps.

Yeah... I don't think so.

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If you see Equilibrium, you'll believe the guy is good for everything.

Do you mean good in anything?

The Frank Miller Comic Book was good.

I thought DKR was rubbish. The Killing Joke leaves all other Batman comics far behind.

No, I'm thinking of what Batman was first.
From Wikipedia's lovely Batman entry:



Before he had the utility belt, or Robin, or even the Batmobile, he was just a guy who hated crime and vowed to beat the evil out of the city with his bare hands.

Before Robin? You mean in the period between Detective Comics #27 (1939) and Detective Comics #38 (1940)? The batmobile and utility belt debuted with him.

You should really try reading the comics instead of trusting what a fan of the gritty post-80s version of the character wrote up on Wikipedia. HINT: they gloss over the camp.

 

[jmervyn]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Ok, how about Excalibur. It's 1981 and they can't make a movie with that magnitude of greatness even with millions of dollars and every top computer/sound effect enhancments in the wolrd.

I'm speechless. I mean, I love the movie and even bought it, but that's like claiming that Highlander is deep & meaningful.

but I haven't personally read anything from that era so I don't know how far that goes.

Translation: I don't know WTF I'm talking about, so I'm disagreeing with Pancake just to increase my all-important postcount.

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That whooshing sound was your credibility flying out the window.

 

[Amra]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Im not confident that it will be good. But it looks extremely promising.

Admit it, you just have the hots for Moon Bloodgood.

 

[Lazer LXXVII]

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Admit it, you just have the hots for Moon Bloodgood.

Honestly, i dont know who that is. I saw it in the credits, but i have no clue who it is :|

 

[Moosashi]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

That whooshing sound was your credibility flying out the window.

Are you kidding? His credibility is a pile of bleached bones in the desert two states back.

 

[Dondrei]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Is there some kind of strange correlation between being right wing and having terrible taste in movies?

 

[WildBerry]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Do you mean good in anything?

Good for something = suitable, applicable for something, yes? Because that's what he was.

That movie also made him good in, at, and with everything, but that's beside the point.

 

[jmervyn]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Is there some kind of strange correlation between being right wing and having terrible taste in movies?

You're no right winger, so that's an obvious negative.

 

[Road Ratt]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

I saw it yesterday and I'm torn, I don't like the new batman at all. Heath Ledger did a great job with the joker. The storyline was good but in several spots I had to laugh when I predicted what was about to happen before it happened and I truely hated the ending. All in all a movie I'd like to rip the good parts out of and watch again but since I can't I doubt I'll ever watch it again.

Oh and for those comparing the two jokers Jack did a superb job playing the traditional joker and Heath did a superb job playing the new darker joker. There's really no need for comparison as, other than the name Joker, they played very different parts.

 

[Dondrei]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

You're no right winger, so that's an obvious negative.

Close, I am right wing so it's a negative.

 

[jmervyn]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

Close, I am right wing so it's a negative.

You're about as right wing as Hillary Clinton.

 

[Lazer LXXVII]

Re: You know what the only good thing about The Dark Knight was?

This was actually intended to be about Terminator Salvation.