Wtf mf!?
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NASE
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Re: Wtf mf!?
650 is overrated. What boss are you running? It often better to run more interesting boss with somewhere between 250-350 mf. And don't forget that mf only works if you keep on running.
I mean, if your target can't drop better then nevom ward, you are very lucky to find one.
650 is overrated. What boss are you running? It often better to run more interesting boss with somewhere between 250-350 mf. And don't forget that mf only works if you keep on running.
I mean, if your target can't drop better then nevom ward, you are very lucky to find one.
Lizardking
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Re: Wtf mf!?
I found more with 250 than with say 350 or 400... I think it's a perfect balance between mf and power. But then again im a amazon...
I found more with 250 than with say 350 or 400... I think it's a perfect balance between mf and power. But then again im a amazon...
Millipede
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Re: Wtf mf!?
daaaaaamn. i feel like im way overdoing it with the mf% now. my kill speed sucks too cuz of that anyways. i just figured since i could i would. im pretty much just doing mephisto since he's fastest to get to and fastest to kill. ive killed baal a few times also and have always gotten total crap. i figured i would at least get a freakin cathans seal or something but i just got crappy blues and a stamina potion or something! WTF MF!? :crazyeyes:
daaaaaamn. i feel like im way overdoing it with the mf% now. my kill speed sucks too cuz of that anyways. i just figured since i could i would. im pretty much just doing mephisto since he's fastest to get to and fastest to kill. ive killed baal a few times also and have always gotten total crap. i figured i would at least get a freakin cathans seal or something but i just got crappy blues and a stamina potion or something! WTF MF!? :crazyeyes:
Tarantella
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Re: Wtf mf!?
And of course an eth upped venom ward is not bad merc armour if your after sojs from nm Andy. :whistling:
And of course an eth upped venom ward is not bad merc armour if your after sojs from nm Andy. :whistling:
SnickerSnack
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Re: Wtf mf!?
Millipede, how many runs have you done?
I've done 250 meph runs on /players5 (to almost always get 6 drops), and I've gotten a few nice drops. I've gotten about 15 good items.
Millipede, how many runs have you done?
I've done 250 meph runs on /players5 (to almost always get 6 drops), and I've gotten a few nice drops. I've gotten about 15 good items.
helvete
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Re: Wtf mf!?
Also remember that the higher the TC, the less of the items actually have a unique or set version. (Rule of thumb, not a fact). Which means you'll see a lot more uniques from NM baal than from hell baal, but ofc you won't see the higher TCs from NM baal.
Try going andy running if you have the bug (which you can read about in a sticky if you don't know it already). Hell andy can drop every set and unique normal and exceptional item, can be reached easily, has a good chance for rings, and you get to use your venom ward(s).
Also remember that the higher the TC, the less of the items actually have a unique or set version. (Rule of thumb, not a fact). Which means you'll see a lot more uniques from NM baal than from hell baal, but ofc you won't see the higher TCs from NM baal.
Try going andy running if you have the bug (which you can read about in a sticky if you don't know it already). Hell andy can drop every set and unique normal and exceptional item, can be reached easily, has a good chance for rings, and you get to use your venom ward(s).
Millipede
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Re: Wtf mf!?
i think ive done a little over 150 now between my druid and my hammerdin i just made. i keep track by how many times ive hed to recharge my teleport amulet. i just use it once maybe twice to skip past all the counsil and the moat. havnt found much good stuff but did just find arreats face and another heartcarver rondel. woo! ill leave it to my girlfriend now to make herself a kickass barb with that stuff. then i can let her find all the good stuff FOR me! :crazyeyes:
Tarantella:
"And of course an eth upped venom ward is not bad merc armour if your after sojs from nm Andy."
holy crap! i didnt know i could get those in NIGHTMARE! i have a new mission now...
i think ive done a little over 150 now between my druid and my hammerdin i just made. i keep track by how many times ive hed to recharge my teleport amulet. i just use it once maybe twice to skip past all the counsil and the moat. havnt found much good stuff but did just find arreats face and another heartcarver rondel. woo! ill leave it to my girlfriend now to make herself a kickass barb with that stuff. then i can let her find all the good stuff FOR me! :crazyeyes:
Tarantella:
"And of course an eth upped venom ward is not bad merc armour if your after sojs from nm Andy."
holy crap! i didnt know i could get those in NIGHTMARE! i have a new mission now...
TheReadMenace
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Re: Wtf mf!?
I think the first act boss that can drop all jewelry is Hell Duriel, but Hell Meph is usually the one you run since he's so much easier (and if you've got a build that can do the moat trick, it's cake).
And let me say, 150 runs is... to be nice, not enough. 1,000 runs is better to show some good variety, but even that isn't close to a high amount. That means, don't expect to be overloaded with EUs, rainbow facets, Azurewraiths and Stormlashes; it takes a lot of time and effort regardless of how much MF you've stacked on. Meph's a good place to start, but you also shouldn't stay at Meph forever since he can't drop everything. Baal runs are fine plus you get good experience on /p8, Pindle's good over LOTS of runs but can't drop six (eight including torches) items, as are alvl85 areas where you can get some good socketed stuff.
Oh, and barbs are best for either Pindle or alvl85 areas for their item find ability. Act bosses... without a killer weapon, not so much.
I think the first act boss that can drop all jewelry is Hell Duriel, but Hell Meph is usually the one you run since he's so much easier (and if you've got a build that can do the moat trick, it's cake).
And let me say, 150 runs is... to be nice, not enough. 1,000 runs is better to show some good variety, but even that isn't close to a high amount. That means, don't expect to be overloaded with EUs, rainbow facets, Azurewraiths and Stormlashes; it takes a lot of time and effort regardless of how much MF you've stacked on. Meph's a good place to start, but you also shouldn't stay at Meph forever since he can't drop everything. Baal runs are fine plus you get good experience on /p8, Pindle's good over LOTS of runs but can't drop six (eight including torches) items, as are alvl85 areas where you can get some good socketed stuff.
Oh, and barbs are best for either Pindle or alvl85 areas for their item find ability. Act bosses... without a killer weapon, not so much.
TheReadMenace
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Re: Wtf mf!?
For any character that has a ranged attack (ie, sorcs, trappers, bowa/javazons, maybe hammerdins but I don't know since I'm against cheese :badteeth, they can attract the attention of Mephisto, then quickly run back toward the areas where the council members spawn (easiest with Teleport). Meph will get stuck across the river of blood and if you're standing far enough away he won't spam any of his attacks at you. So basically you can stand back, cast your spells or spam your hammers & traps or plink away at him with a bow, and you're totally safe from all his attacks. Makes for easy MFing.
Depending where the council members spawn, you can often teleport right to Meph, get him to follow you, teleport back across the moat and find a perfect spot where you won't even have to take out any of the council and still never get hit... but that's a little tough depending on where your map spawns them. It takes a bit of practice, but you can take the weakest sorc into hell without a merc and do a thousand runs without fear of retalliation. Any questions and I can post a few screenshots for you if it isn't clear.
For any character that has a ranged attack (ie, sorcs, trappers, bowa/javazons, maybe hammerdins but I don't know since I'm against cheese :badteeth
, they can attract the attention of Mephisto, then quickly run back toward the areas where the council members spawn (easiest with Teleport). Meph will get stuck across the river of blood and if you're standing far enough away he won't spam any of his attacks at you. So basically you can stand back, cast your spells or spam your hammers & traps or plink away at him with a bow, and you're totally safe from all his attacks. Makes for easy MFing. Depending where the council members spawn, you can often teleport right to Meph, get him to follow you, teleport back across the moat and find a perfect spot where you won't even have to take out any of the council and still never get hit... but that's a little tough depending on where your map spawns them. It takes a bit of practice, but you can take the weakest sorc into hell without a merc and do a thousand runs without fear of retalliation. Any questions and I can post a few screenshots for you if it isn't clear.
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NASE
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Re: Wtf mf!?
and you can easily quest-bug her for even better drops. And a meteorb shouldn't have any problems so you can even use an old mf character if needed. -50% fire ftw.And andy also have the best chance to drop rings, which makes her to the best boss for soj-hunters.