wtf is wrong with pvp smiter

[RoseOfSharyn]

wtf is wrong with pvp smiter

k this sucks, i make this god smiter and he cant kill

all vita, nothing else

ber shako
ber upped hoz
mp nig
highlords
e trek
40/14 dungo
2x bks
bloodfists
38/395 griefz

20x 20 lifescs
20/16 ptorch
17/16/10 anni

maxed Defiance, Fanta, Smite, Hs

i got like 4k life with b.o and i cant kill smiters that do 3k, should it take them few hits to kill me? like ugh

 

[inanefedaykin]

Well, you seem to have 17 open slots in your inventory.

 

[RoseOfSharyn]

so whats that mean, more 20 lifers? that wont add much will it? I need to get crafted gloves and waterwalks i think...

and get dex scs so i can use greif pb?

 

[erians]

You're gear is amazing, high t, high anni, close to perfect equip except coa instead of shako 'ber', but they are pretty equal and you still reach 48 DR anyway. Try fortitude instead of nigma for some extra damage (i only used tele on my smiter vs a selected few classes, mostly ww barbs) and charge with vigor instead of tele. You also need a sorce of Cannot Be Frozen from either Cham in a Zaka or a Ravenfrost.

If you have problem with this gear Id say you do something wrong play-style wise. Im not a super skilled smiter, but opening with a Vigor-Charge and then just Fana Smite them down worked wonders for me, the charge will probably desynch so ur look like ur far-cast smiting to ur opponent. Try using Forti instead with Eni in stash. Its kinda hard to figure out what ur doing wrong w/o knowing how u play, so if u tell us ur basic strat it'll be easier to help u . 4k life is alot with 17 free slots in your inventory, get some more lifers, stack some resistance or fill ur invent with crap lifers, anything is better than nothing.

Edit: Assuming you hit the last IAS breakpoint (total of 55 IAS with a +35% Fana) with a zerker, which you do with a 38 GriefZ highlords and BF, a zerker is just better in every aspect, getting a Pb will make it harder vs smiters with longer range (and other classes with range 3, such as Javazons & barbs).

Edit2: I personally dont think 75% CTB is that important, even tho ALL my pvp chars have it, the extra life is good vs all classes while block only works vs very few. In pubs the only common character using a blockable attack is the BvC, and as a smiter you should p00n him pretty easily with nigma.

 

[mephiztophelez]

if you've gone "all-vit", your probably having some serious Block issues.

by my count, you have 60%FHR, i kind of like 86% on my smiter.

theres also a rather glaring lack of CBF in your build. ditch the BK's, replace with a ravenfrost and maybe a dex/res/life rare ring or a carrion vine (twister proc's FTW!)

 

[saellison]

Well with that gear you have +15 to combat skills with maxed HS giving your holy shield +38 chance to block. 38+82=120. From that gear I got about 60 dex. At level 85 in order for you to have max block with that setup you need around 121 dexterity. Considering you have about half of that I am assuming your chance to block is awful. Thankfully smiters tend to have a large amount of defense, but with crappy blocking other smiters are still going to have a much easier time connecting with charge. Alot of smiters put their unused points into charge which would probably shred you with your awful blocking. It is like 3 in the morning so I might have made some mistake calculating your dex or something but from the looks of it unless it is strictly smite you might want to remake and get maxblock. If you don't feel like getting max block at least put on a ravenfrost first for the cbf mod, second for the +20 dex. Now that I think about it, 2 ravenfrosts might be better just to make up for the low dex.

 

[erians]

Well with that gear you have +15 to combat skills with maxed HS giving your holy shield +38 chance to block. 38+82=120. From that gear I got about 60 dex. At level 85 in order for you to have max block with that setup you need around 121 dexterity. Considering you have about half of that I am assuming your chance to block is awful. Thankfully smiters tend to have a large amount of defense, but with crappy blocking other smiters are still going to have a much easier time connecting with charge. Alot of smiters put their unused points into charge which would probably shred you with your awful blocking. It is like 3 in the morning so I might have made some mistake calculating your dex or something but from the looks of it unless it is strictly smite you might want to remake and get maxblock. If you don't feel like getting max block at least put on a ravenfrost first for the cbf mod, second for the +20 dex. Now that I think about it, 2 ravenfrosts might be better just to make up for the low dex.

Most smiters have horrible, horrible attack rating, and with a maxed HS and Defiance hes gonna have A LOT of defence, no well built smiter should be able to hit him with charge, even tho block helps alot.

Are you getting destroyed by all classes or just other smiters?

 

[RoseOfSharyn]

Are you getting destroyed by all classes or just other smiters?[/QUOTE]

Just smiters, and if i'm able to do that i should beable to kill any other melee class.

 

[RoseOfSharyn]

Well with that gear you have +15 to combat skills with maxed HS giving your holy shield +38 chance to block. 38+82=120. From that gear I got about 60 dex. At level 85 in order for you to have max block with that setup you need around 121 dexterity. Considering you have about half of that I am assuming your chance to block is awful. Thankfully smiters tend to have a large amount of defense, but with crappy blocking other smiters are still going to have a much easier time connecting with charge. Alot of smiters put their unused points into charge which would probably shred you with your awful blocking. It is like 3 in the morning so I might have made some mistake calculating your dex or something but from the looks of it unless it is strictly smite you might want to remake and get maxblock. If you don't feel like getting max block at least put on a ravenfrost first for the cbf mod, second for the +20 dex. Now that I think about it, 2 ravenfrosts might be better just to make up for the low dex.

I made a pally with 75% CTB and i got owned by smiters without Max Block. They said more life the better, if you do 2.5 smite, your good.

If i get waterwalks and sum godly crafted gloves i'll be good,along wiht a 6bo cta and more lifers.

should put be at 5.5k life

 

[saellison]

Well the reason I said that I guess wasn't really based off too much experience. Me and my friend both had smiters and I had maxblock and he didn't. Every time we dueled it was very easy for me to hit him with charge before the smiting initiated. That was the only time I knew I was facing another smiter without maxblock. I just assumed most pubbie smiters had maxblock.

 

[SicHalo]

I made a pally with 75% CTB and i got owned by smiters without Max Block. They said more life the better, if you do 2.5 smite, your good.

If i get waterwalks and sum godly crafted gloves i'll be good,along wiht a 6bo cta and more lifers.

should put be at 5.5k life

welll u will need maxblock vs all other mele try facing a whirlwind barb decent one without no block will be a kick in the teeth.

Also yeah get that cbf in your setup a raven frost should be a perment fix in ur ring slots.

 

[Mythatic]

you only have 48%DR, get a 15%DR Dungo and you'll hit 49% DR,

and get 4x-5x Pcomb lifers, rest 20 lifes.

That should help, and NEVER RUN into a duel, walk to maintain block. Also, always try to get the first hit, don't charge to your opponent, its bm.

best of luck

 

[Von Lazuli]

you only have 48%DR, get a 15%DR Dungo and you'll hit 49% DR,

and get 4x-5x Pcomb lifers, rest 20 lifes.

1%DR is not going to make much difference... And, what do you expect the Pcombats to do? A little more damage is not worth the loss of 100ish pre BO life (assuming 40 Life Pcombats, which are redicuously expensive).

I have heard good things about 3Pcombat, 100 Life amulets... but I am yet to try them out myself.

Also running or not is pointless... Smite ignores block and defence...

Laz

 

[akumaxxyz]

since when is charging to your opponents bm? or do you mean jumping when the other side is not ready

 

[Mythatic]

since when is charging to your opponents bm? or do you mean jumping when the other side is not ready

As like, when both opponents says "!go", you guys run/walk to each other and start smiting, charging into another person is not considered gm, i dunno though, this is how i duel in zeal duels, maybe i'm wrong.

 

[SicHalo]

As like, when both opponents says "!go", you guys run/walk to each other and start smiting, charging into another person is not considered gm, i dunno though, this is how i duel in zeal duels, maybe i'm wrong.

hmm it could do with something like charge on a smiter does huge dmg not to mention the kb from the charge then followed by the charge + smite can give u an edge in the duel.

i think its sorta like when a charging smiter charges a ww barb unexspectedly because of kb + fhr u sometimes cannot even get whirlwind off efficently even though ww is uniteruptable like smite. I think a few barbs may know what im talking about, maybe the same applys to smite duels..

 

[akumaxxyz]

i dont see how its bm if you are both ready, walk smite is boring takes no skill, atleast with both charging around it still requires you to have some good clicking skill

you can pull off none stop charges sometimes i kill alot of barbs unexpected like that, a chain of charges keeps knocking them back until death or you get frozen

 

[ultrabadbob]

the two reasons i can see that u are losing to smiters both have something to do w/ exile. Im not saying that u should always use exile. im not even saying that its that good.

that said, im guessing that most of ur smiter opponents are using it. this would definitly be the case in pubs. exile has "freezes target" and you have no cnbf. so, if they get the first hit, ur gonna be frozen no matter what, which is not a good situation to be in especially if ur using a zerker. thus, like several people have already said, get some cnbf, either in the form of a raven frost or a cham in ur hoz.

ravens are probably better. this brings me to the other reason. if most of your smiter opponents are using exile, they are likely getting life tap off on u. to counter this, i might suggest investing in an exile ur self, for use vs other smiters and chars that dont use elemental dmg. this is why raven is better, because if u cham ur hoz, and then switch to exile, u dont have ur cnbf nemore.
all of the changes that have been suggested are good, and if u decide to do them, ur probably gonna need to remake.

 

[RoseOfSharyn]

Nah, hes done now. 5.4k Life, 2.5k Smite, hes woops pvp. Thanks for your help boys.

 

[Uncle_Mike]

Nah, hes done now. 5.4k Life, 2.5k Smite, hes woops pvp. Thanks for your help boys.

IMO, a big factor in smite vs smite is holy freeze - people who make SvS paladins usually have better hf range. If rich they can base their build on PC skillers and end up with better damage while retaining decent life.

Smite vs all is another story. Do not worry about mirror matches that much :wave: