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Word fun for the dondrei in all of us.

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  1. Stevinator

    Stevinator Diabloii.Net Member

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    Word fun for the dondrei in all of us.

    http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwords/shion?view=uk

    thought you'd get a kick out of reading some of the oddities of the english language.

    and here's a little about the word thru--and why it is more acceptable than ne1.

    http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19980814

    here's some abbreviations used in texting--these are the ones i don't think should be words.

    http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/textmessageabbreviations.asp

    and i found this by accident. find words and abbreviations in your phone number--very cool. mine phone number had nothing cool, but my parent's did.

    http://www.dialabc.com/words/search/
     
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    Dondrei Diabloii.Net Member

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    Hey, using Scottish words is cheating.

    I know I will, but everyone else is probably going to want to kill both of us. :D

    Grrr, them's fightin' woids.

    Those spelling reform movements never acheived anything. Unlike German, English has no office of rectitude that has authority over it. Changes only really happen organically. For better or for worse. The only official spelling change that had a big effect was the one put into practice in America that led to the existence of American spelling. Which by the way, is almost as idiosyncratic as the British.

    Newspapers, magazines and the internet are of course not a good source of correct English. If some books do use the 'thru' spelling it's incorrect. I've never seen any, and of course I'd notice.

    'Thru' also looks terrible. I can't think of another English word that ends with a 'u' (after a consonant anyway) that has the same pronunciation. If people really wanted to get rid of the 'through' spelling, presumably out of a dislike of the archaic 'gh' spelling, the logical thing to do would be to spell it 'threw'. I assume people don't like to do this because no-one wants to make a homophone worse by making it a homonym too.

    P.S. I've often wonder if there's a word for two words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently - the converse of the homophone.

    All I got was 'we'. Oh well.
     
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    Merick Diabloii.Net Member

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    I hate "thru" too. I see it all the time on signs by the road "road closed to thru traffic". You'd think something that the city uses wouldn't use a misspelled (crap, one or two s-es?) word.
    Then again, no one EVER says "virii" even though I was taught all "thru" school that it was the correct pluralization.
     
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    Dondrei Diabloii.Net Member

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    Oh man, I just looked up what the plural of 'volcano' is supposed to be, and I got this site. The preamble is what caught my eye:

    Priceless. You can't make stuff like that up.
     
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    Thru and flu?

    I gave up on pronouncing every word correct a long time ago. I'll still correct myself, but I no longer care if i mess up a word i've read the first time i say it in public.

    English is the easiest language ever!*

    *I am biased.
     
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    Dondrei Diabloii.Net Member

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    Simultaneous posts. Jinx!

    Now you can't talk 'til someone says your name three times.

    'Flu' is a contraction of 'influenza', so it's not a real word.

    Kind of. It's so full of idiosyncracies (of spelling, pronunciation and grammar) that it's often considered very hard to learn if you didn't grow up with it. German by contrast is very uniform. But English has a big advantage in that the rules are very relaxed - you can get away with just about anything grammatically and we've dropped gender and many different kinds of conjugation. Again, unlike German which is a pain in the arse with all the technicalities.
     
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    Stevinator Diabloii.Net Member

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    Homograph sort of fits that description, but I don't think they necessarily have to be pronounced differently.
     
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    Just wondering, is there any grammatical difference between toward and towards?
     
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    It depends on how you define appropriate. You certainly aren't going to use it in professional writing.
     
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    Dondrei Diabloii.Net Member

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    Ah yes, that would also work. Good ol' dipthongs.

    So would Qantas be, but that doesn't mean that it's okay to have a 'q' with no 'u'.

    I don't think there really is. This is what dictionary.com had to say:

    Ah, that's a better one. But gnu is imported from an African language (my World Book Dictionary says Kaffir, but I don't know what that is. Apart from an Afrikaans word meaning 'heretic', used as a racial slur against blacks) word, so it no more needs to fit the rules for English pronunciation/spelling than words like "foie gras" or "Qing" (as in Qing dynasty).
     
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    Found one: Lead (to go ahead versus the metal). Finally solved!

    German: Modern (to molder versus of new design)

    I got them from Google and Wkipedia.
     
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    Hi, krischan!!

    Long time, no post. I just started to play D3 and thought I'd drop in.

    What our friend Dondrei was referring to are called "Heteronyms". Besides "lead", other examples are "bow", "tear", and "bass".
     
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    Dondrei Diabloii.Net Member

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    I see I'm still on the front page.

    Even Dead I'm The Hero!
     
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    Sheesh, you're still such a fecking homophone.

    When I tried to "like" your previous post, the OTF site asked me, "are you sure?" Maybe it knows something...

    Good to see your scaly hide regardless.
     
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    Thought maybe the dropbears got you. What's new?
     
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    Not a lot really, still skiving off work on internet forums. Got into collecting Transformers and now I can barely use the mouse because they're all over my desk. Also started reading old comic books. Project: Avoid Growing Up is an all-round success.
     
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    Went to a flea market a few years ago and a guy had a box full of like mid 80's Grimlocks. Most were in pieces. It was weird because that was all he had. What vintage do you collect?

    Good luck with the Peter Pan Project.

    Did you sell the lego?
     

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