Windy or BvC?

[tmd turka]

Windy or BvC?

Hi

Which performs the best without skillers?

Assume both have the core gear needed for the build.
BvC has Greif/Beast, Enigma, Arreatts...etc and Windy has Hoto, Enigma, Spirit, etc...


Thanks

 

[soc]

BvC by far

before i got my charms for him i could still own pubbies with anni and like 10 crappy life sc's

 

[Sechler]

Hi

Which performs the best without skillers?

Assume both have the core gear needed for the build.
BvC has Greif/Beast, Enigma, Arreatts...etc and Windy has Hoto, Enigma, Spirit, etc...
Thanks

You're not gonna want skillers on a bvc at optimum buildout. If the question was.... "Which performs best w/o godly charms?".... then it would still be bvc tho.
You will want max dmg/ar/life charms for a barb. It's nice to get all those mods on the same charm, but verrrry expensive. I have about 4 max dmg/ar large charms, 5 max dmg/ar gc's, and tons and tons of all res and 20 life sc's on my bvc. He used to use 8 warcry skillers and do ok... now w/ the new charms he does extremely well.

 

[Ce Olba]

Trust me, you do not want any skillers on a BvC.

I tried Mastery Skillers, hoping they would add lots of damage, AR and Defense. It added about 1-3k defense, crap AR and very little damage.
I tried WC Skillers, hoping they would boost my life a lot. They did, but I ended up with crap AR.
Combat skillers are not even to be considered, they add small damage and radius to Leap, but also add mana costs, which is terrible, as you already have low mana compared to the spending of mana you need to play offensive.

Look for the BvC and BvA thread in the Barbarian forum for charm setups.

 

[elmek]

Windy will be too weak without skillers, tornado and cyclone armour will not be powerful enough. My vote goes to BvC as well.

 

[Dyn]

Windy will be too weak without skillers, tornado and cyclone armour will not be powerful enough. My vote goes to BvC as well.

Bvc all the way, I have been away from this forum for a while and the same old question are being asked, It's alot easier for everyone if you just search the topic... Any way Windy can bepowerful with out skillers.

 

[arbing]

just a question if you can afford those runeword, wouldnt you be able to afford the skillers for windy as well? it's quite cheap for plain skillers nowadays

 

[tmd turka]

just a question if you can afford those runeword, wouldnt you be able to afford the skillers for windy as well? it's quite cheap for plain skillers nowadays

I was going to trade the gear of one char for the skillers of the other. Both are without skillers right now.

But...

Since my BvC doesnt need any and my windy needs alot I won't be doing any of that.

 

[kmk-soldier]

bvc > windy

 

[jake007]

Windy. You'll have an easy time with a windy than a BvC, particularly when you don't have experience with the latter build.

BvC don't need skillers, but they do need quite a few AR/Life charms that are relatively pricey.

 

[Ce Olba]

Windy. You'll have an easy time with a windy than a BvC, particularly when you don't have experience with the latter build.

BvC don't need skillers, but they do need quite a few AR/Life charms that are relatively pricey.

It depends on which you're gonna buy. I myself got a self found 20/33 sc, a few fhr/ar scs, one being max/ar, and 3 high-ish ar/life gcs (126, 128 and 130 AR out of 132, 30,35 and 38 life out of possible 40-45 (however 45 is very unlikely) I got 9377 AR with pubsetup, can reach up to 26.6k AR. Could have even more, but I do not have the Hsarus' pieces.

 

[RetroStar]

Performance-wise. BvC is much better than Windy, that is considering you are skilled at both.

Price wise, BvC is also more expensive if you want to make a decent one especially with charms.

If you're starting a PvP char, I would go with Windy first.

 

[Sechler]

Retro makes a good point, if you're just starting out in the pvp world, go windy first. You may make a bvc, but it's tricky to get them tweaked were they kill alot of folks. Windies are straight forward and hard to mess up. Plus windies will jack up V/T's which i just got done dueling one, and he frustrated the piss outta me.