Wind vs Fire

[Mandorin]

Wind vs Fire

I've just completed hell with a wind druid, and, quite frankly, I was amazed at how easy everything was (with the exception of the ancients, who managed to cost me a fair number of potions). I was wondering how a fire druid compares to a wind druid. I'd miss having a hugely powerful cyclone armor.

 

[Chimaira]

I think that a wellbuilt Fire druid could easily match the wind druids offensive capabilities, although he might be slightly difficult to handle due to massive casting delays and Armageddons randomness... and as you say Cyclone Armor is a sweet sweet skill. Still I'd say fire druids are perfectly viable althoug slight advantage Wind druid.

 

[Beowulf]

I think that a wellbuilt Fire druid could easily match the wind druids offensive capabilities, although he might be slightly difficult to handle due to massive casting delays and Armageddons randomness... and as you say Cyclone Armor is a sweet sweet skill. Still I'd say fire druids are perfectly viable althoug slight advantage Wind druid.

I would not waster points in geddon it has to many prereqs for what it is. A good fire druid should max fissure and volcano (one of the best boss killers) and another synergy and then worry about oak and grizz bear.

 

[yuqing]

no geddon is a joke, a good syenergised geddon can easily top 10k with a few skills, with some training it can be your best friend, its also arguably your strongest skill damage wise, if u know how to use it

 

[Uzziah]

Actually I played a dual elemental druid and found it to be incredible powerful from clvl 6 through Hell Baal. The fire side of the elemental tree is powerhouse when it comes to fire skills. the Wind side is a minor powerhouse but very protective. The combination of the two is incredible. I have a guide floating around here or the SPF somewhere that goes into how I built the dual elemental druid and how it's effective, since I wrote the guide I have finish hell with that build and only needed help facing the ancients, (dang FE bug).

as for which is better I say use both.

 

[psuedoenviro]

There are alot of fire immunes in hell. It can be done, but act 4 with bloodlords (no kb) and oblivion knights is dangerous and very slow going. Act 2,3 easy.

Actually I played a dual elemental druid and found it to be incredible powerful from clvl 6 through Hell Baal.......I have a guide floating around here or the SPF somewhere that goes into how I built the dual elemental druid and how it's effective, since I wrote the guide I have finish hell with that build and only needed help facing the ancients, (dang FE bug).

as for which is better I say use both.

I have read your guide a few times and would not mind seeing it stickied in the druid forum. gj. Or maybe if Garbad updates his guide he could talk about hybrids (stone, earthshifter, staffmod based) and provide a link to yours.

Hybrid builds are tough to work out an ideal setup, always trying to find out the ideal balance. I wouldn't mind seeing some more item comparisons added to your guide, but I also understand that leaving that up to the creator is half the point of making a hybrid. gj again.

 

[Beowulf]

no geddon is a joke, a good syenergised geddon can easily top 10k with a few skills, with some training it can be your best friend, its also arguably your strongest skill damage wise, if u know how to use it

Yes geddon is a joke you can do much better with fissure and volcano which can do as much damage without all the useless rereqs which allows for more points into a summon as backup.

 

[Weltkriegpally]

There are alot of fire immunes in hell. It can be done, but act 4 with bloodlords (no kb) and oblivion knights is dangerous and very slow going. Act 2,3 easy.



I have read your guide a few times and would not mind seeing it stickied in the druid forum. gj. Or maybe if Garbad updates his guide he could talk about hybrids (stone, earthshifter, staffmod based) and provide a link to yours.

Hybrid builds are tough to work out an ideal setup, always trying to find out the ideal balance. I wouldn't mind seeing some more item comparisons added to your guide, but I also understand that leaving that up to the creator is half the point of making a hybrid. gj again.

I have planned out my own hybrid elemental. It uses no staff mods for its attacks, and its made it thru hell, rather easily, in fact. with so called godly gear, you can hit 4.4k nado, 1.3k hurricane, 1k+ damage absorbed cyclone, 3k fissure, and 2kish firestorm. but its pretty much a pure elemental, with the exception of maybe one point oak sage. I really enjoyed making the build, and I might try a guide for it myself at some point, but werebears are calling from my druid brethren, especially the pvp type.

--welt

 

[Uzziah]

@ Weltkriegpally With perfect equipment my build could easily get

2k firestorm
2k hurricane
4k tornado
and 2k armageddon

While having points left over for oaksage and grizzly (not that you need either of them.

My build finished Hell with 2.2K tornados, 1.4k hurricane 1.2k firestorm and 1.4k armageddon. It was a project to get a elemental druid through without any other skill tree, PS he worked greatly.

There are many ways top skin that cat though so yeah your probably worked as well. and is probably fire based with little towards cyclone armor.

@psuedoenviro yeah the charge bug is a b**** to work around with some hybrid builds and ideas so it takes a lot of preplanning, using earthshifter is hard, because of the strength requirement, but that can be used well with a armageddon wolf or bear. So mixing for hybrids can be quite fun.

 

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

what the frig happened there?

points to next page

*shrug*

phelix

 

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

20 pts fissure
20 pts volcano
20 pts armageddon
20 pts armor
20 pts tornado
last 7 points go into oak
2.5k fissure, 2k per ball volcano, ~2.5k tornado, ~5k geddon, ~1200 damage absorb

phelix

thats assuming u know avg gear like spirit sword, shaeled skin of vipermagi, shaeled shako, um perf spike thorn, 15% dungos, sandstorm, 2x fcr rings
45% dr +3 skills amulet
decent resists
55+20+20+30+10+20 = 155% fhr...2 smalls 1 grand fhr = 179
35+20+30+10+10 = 105% fcr

10 elemental charms

(thats the base set up i used with dragoons caculator to get the damage i did) clearly could use some tweaking, its the setup im putting together for my hybrid right now

phelix


phelix

 

[Weltkriegpally]

@ Weltkriegpally With perfect equipment my build could easily get

2k firestorm
2k hurricane
4k tornado
and 2k armageddon

While having points left over for oaksage and grizzly (not that you need either of them.

My build finished Hell with 2.2K tornados, 1.4k hurricane 1.2k firestorm and 1.4k armageddon. It was a project to get a elemental druid through without any other skill tree, PS he worked greatly.

There are many ways top skin that cat though so yeah your probably worked as well. and is probably fire based with little towards cyclone armor.

I could easily top the numbers I have...its just mixing and matching the cyclone armor/hurricane, really. I could also take a few points away and go with 10-20 oak sage. the build does work very well, but mine is more pvp based, since its gear allows for that sort of thing. I have to admit yours is a pretty cool build, but its not what I would likely play, since I constantly switch gear around.

--welt