Will this FC werebear work in PvP?

[Findux]

Will this FC werebear work in PvP?

Hi, I'm making a FC bear now and wonder if this setup will work..

The skills:
Werebear - 1
Lycanthropy - 1
Oak - 1
HoW - 1
Fire claw - Max
The rest to fire claw synergy.

Equipment:
Armor: Enigma
Helm: Jalal's
Shield: Stormshield
Gloves: Magefist/bloodfist
Belt: Verdungo
Boots: ???
Weapon: 6 soc pb with 4xshael and 2x15ias/other mod (I'll see what I need) jewel (I think 108 ias is needed, and this will be 110)
Rings: Raven/angelic
Amulet: Mara's/angelic/highlords don't realy know here :undecided:

Anni
Torch
9xshape skillers
10xlife/ar scs

Should I change something?
Please help :smiley:

Regards
Findux

 

[TigerPrawn]

Hmm just a few quick notices I made when looking over you're build/gear...

I've never done full out synergy so I can't comment on how effective the dmg gain and life loss is. However, for my current FC druid I went with the middle road and maxed 3 Synergies, 10 in Molten Boulder, and working on 10 Lycan.

You'll def want to hit the FHR break point of 86% FHR, looks like you will if you use Bloodfists (30), Jalal's (30... shaeled 50%) and Verdungoes (10).

I prefer a high life bloodbelt over Verdungoes, but go with what best suits you.

As for the ammy, go with Maras. I use Maras the majority of the time, but switch up to +3 SS +96 life ammy when fighting melee or other classes that don't require me to have much res.

 

[frums]

for boots aldurs are nice, the rest seems ok to me, pretty much what i use on my bear
dont think the 1pt in how is needed tho, and for skills, id go for ~13k damage, and rest into lycan, thats what i did and it works pretty good. but you can try out yourself what you like best ofc

 

[Findux]

Thanks guys... I'm thinking if I can switch to spirit monarch/arach/magefist vs casters without physical dmg for fast chockwave. What you think?
And for the boots, will aldurs be good?
And if I change the verdungo to a rare belt, I'll not get max dmg reduction :/

 

[superjayson]

http://fcdruid.tripod.com/fc.html
dont waste a point into how. you already get good ar with fireclaws.

 

[Queen Mebd]

If you're really wanting to use a rare belt for say fhr/life/res, ber the Stormshield, with that and Enigma you'll get max pdr. This way you can swap shields around more easily when you need the pdr (as you'll be getting it from two pieces of equipment rather than three), this is what I do on my fc druid. Also Sanctuary is nice for resistance stacking, I also use this as part of a special setup for other fc druids.

Also, don't worry about the Highlord's, you'll be getting a little OIAS from Bloodfists, which I hope you'll be using, the fhr and life are much more beneficial for a titan build such as yourself. That said, keep the Mara's in the stash for when you need the resistances, and try and get your paws on a 3 SS skills/mass life amulet like TigerPrawn mentioned.

Lastly, please please please don't build around Enigma. Save it for when you need the fr/w. Try shopping (or even trading if you've got the resources) an artisan's or preferably jeweler's armor of the whale and stuff it with as many fire facets as you can muster. The life boost you get from the whale mod will most likely outway the hard points saved in strength from Enigma, not to mention the damage boost is considerable. I had the misfortune of statting around Enigma on my fc druid, while Superjayson there didn't, and his bear still has more life than mine using an Jeweler's armor of the Whale (and our lifers aren't that off from each other).

It's also completely possible to go all fireclaws and synergies, but that's your preference. Also to note, even with max lycanthropy it's possible to hit a little more than 13k, I want to say my druid is in the 14-15k range with his pub setup (and he's going the max lycanthropy route).

edit: curse my slow typing, do head the above advise and check out the guide if you haven't already.

 

[TigerPrawn]

Although it is debatable on whether or not to stat around enigma, I find it works quite well and am a big fan of it. Try whatever works for you.

Here's what I'm working with...

lvl 93
7873 Life
Max Block (without depending on any items except Raven, Anni, Torch)
17,288 Dmg

Gear setup looks like...

Jalal's (Facet)
Enigma
Maras/SS Ammy
Blood belt with FHR/Life
Aldur's Boots
Ravenfrost//Bulkathos
Bloodfists
Stormshield
Pb with 4 shaels/2 IAS jewels with Res

I maintain full res, aswell as 12K AR in bear, and around 17-18K AR in Wolf. I can switch in a few items to hit 20K if needed, but not very often.

I'm still working on Lycan, so every lvl I gain I also gain 5% HP. I won't have lvl 10 Lycan until 97 or so :cry: .

 

[superjayson]

Although it is debatable on whether or not to stat around enigma, I find it works quite well and am a big fan of it. Try whatever works for you.

no offence bro, but its not debatable. stating around enigma will net you more life and you'll still have a strong build, but an fc druid who doesnt stat around enigma will always be better than one that does.
Just like all other shapeshifters are better off not stating around enigma, the fc druid is no different.

 

[TigerPrawn]

no offence bro, but its not debatable. stating around enigma will net you more life and you'll still have a strong build, but an fc druid who doesnt stat around enigma will always be better than one that does.
Just like all other shapeshifters are better off not stating around enigma, the fc druid is no different.

Well I do not agree, and I debate it, therefore it's debateable :thumbsup: . There are plrenty of ways to play the same build. I chose a different path, and it works quite well.

Much like the Synergy topic. I chose the 3.5 Synergy and .5 Lycan. Some like full all out synergy, others like 3 synergies and full lycan. It's all preference. Enigma works well for me. Very well, and I'll keep suggesting it, and have people at least think about doing it or trying it before turning it down as an option.

Won't know if something works until you try it for yourself.

 

[superjayson]

Won't know if something works until you try it for yourself.

and i have tried it for myself. ive been playing fc druids for a few years now trying different gear set ups, playing different ways including stating around enigma and my argument is not stating around enigma will ALWAYS be better. i know what im talking about as ive had alot of experience with this build. ive pretty much devoted all my d2 time tweaking it.

it just sounds like your trying to argue that it still works for you and your playing style, which is fine and you're still partly right. stating around enigma wont harm your build, but it wont ever be the best.

 

[TigerPrawn]

and i have tried it for myself. ive been playing fc druids for a few years now trying different gear set ups, playing different ways including stating around enigma and my argument is not stating around enigma will ALWAYS be better. i know what im talking about as ive had alot of experience with this build. ive pretty much devoted all my d2 time tweaking it.

it just sounds like your trying to argue that it still works for you and your playing style, which is fine and you're still partly right. stating around enigma wont harm your build, but it wont ever be the best.

Yes, I'm well aware that you wrote the guide on FC and you have tried statting around Enigma, however that doesn't change a lick about what I mentioned. When I say, "Wont know if it works until you try it" I am referring to the OP. I say never turn down an idea unless you try it for yourself, even if everyone says otherwise.

And you're 100% correct, I am arguing that it works for me and my play style. However, you're quite wrong when saying its not the best. Not the best for who? For you? I can't argue there. However enigma is the best for ME and others may feel the same. Why put the FC build in a cage when you can let it roam free and let people try what they prefer? If someone were to prefer the other route of swapping gear more power to them.

I may not have years of experience with the build as you do, however, I have taken both routes and much prefer Enigma. I have taken a FC druid to lvl 90+ without enigma and with. Furthermore, I am not saying the other route is wrong by any means, I do however feel that statting around Enigma is not some taboo thing that should never be done. I highly recommend trying it before putting the idea oh the shelf. That is all :thumbsup: .

 

[TigerPrawn]

Double Post.

 

[superjayson]

im not saying for me. im saying the build its self is best when not stating around enigma.
if you're so concerned with more life, come on east and i'll gladly show you a 9k life bear with 288 vit after items, lycan not maxed and not perfect lifers.

seriously no offence man im not trying to be a dick to you (cause i feel like i am) i actually like you in a non homosexual kind of way ;p. ive just spent alot of time on this build and trying to make it more well known in this community and i feel as if you're trying to tell people using enigma is a really good option when its really taken a step back from even better possibilities. stating around enigma should only be an option if wealth is a concern or you do not have access to alternative armors.

 

[TigerPrawn]

im not saying for me. im saying the build its self is best when not stating around enigma.
if you're so concerned with more life, come on east and i'll gladly show you a 9k life bear with 288 vit after items, lycan not maxed and not perfect lifers.

seriously no offence man im not trying to be a dick to you (cause i feel like i am) i actually like you in a non homosexual kind of way ;p. ive just spent alot of time on this build and trying to make it more well known in this community and i feel as if you're trying to tell people using enigma is a really good option when its really taken a step back from even better possibilities. stating around enigma should only be an option if wealth is a concern or you do not have access to alternative armors.

Oh I definitely don't take offence it's a game afterall :wink3: . However, I do believe that a person should try something themselves anyway and see how it goes. Reading guides and getting help is fine, but if that person never tries an idea like statting around enigma, using fireclaw, pshh Jary and his grizzly of death, they'll never know if they would have liked it or not. My first go around I followed the guide and got extra help from Jary. However, after much thought I decided to give it another go with enigma, and I love it. I have never, and never will tell people Enigma is the best choice. I will tell everyone I talk to that enigma worked out really well for me and to try it for themselves.

Also, another topic that hardly gets touched on is Team Duels. I love doing Team duels, and I consider (I think you'll agree) that enigma is a good all around armor. You can't be swapping gear mid fight (unless you want that headache). For solo pvp/tourney style or even pubs, switching gear may be ideal. I prefer team duels, but also solo pvp so enigma was definitely without a doubt the right choice for me.

I've spent quite bit of time building this char, discussing various topics with Jary, testing it out in pvp situations, and its pretty much all I wanted out of the FC druid. I'm extremely happy with the decisions I went with :grin:

 

[Findux]

Thank you all for your help :smiley:
I think I'll go for enigma as start armor, because I can't afford a "Jeweler's Plate of the Whale". But I will get one when I have my chance :grin: It have so much style...
Thanks again... I'll try to test the equipment by myself and see what works best for me

Regards

 

[superjayson]

if you have the patience you can shop for one at hell lazurk

 

[Findux]

Ok, what char level would be the best? And what type of armors should I gamble?

 

[superjayson]

i always use 90+ lvl chars to shop.
it doesnt matter what type, be creative ;p

 

[danil]

lol it all revolved around a debate. i will like to say - enigma is the best for its uses. that's it, simple, needless to debate anymore. =)

 

[Queen Mebd]

lol it all revolved around a debate. i will like to say - enigma is the best for its uses. that's it, simple, needless to debate anymore. =)

How is it best when you can get more life, more damage and -res with a faceted whale armor, even after spending the strength to use one, hmmm?

Enigma is great when you need the fr/w, don't get me wrong, but it's not a be all end all armor. Chains of Honor can be good for occasional res stack. Duress is nice for melee. And a Jeweler's of the Whale is hands down much better for fc vs fc matches.