Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

[TheWanderer]

Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

As above. In D3 their is a system that allows you to transfer items between characters.(Correct me if I'm wrong). This means that someone can put an item in the transfer area, having already made a backup of their character, then overwrite the older file and there you have it, 2 items. This happens a lot in Titan Quest: Immortal Throne. Hope D3 will have some way to prevent this. I don't want to see prices plummenting in SP due to easy dupes.
Maybe it can be fixed by preventing the player to make backups. But that would make people angry as they are stuck on one computer.
Any ideas?

 

[Furvy]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

Obviously, Blizzard isn't going to release D3 without taking every precaution to make sure duping is virtually impossible for online play.

As far as single player, of course there are going to be savegame editors and such which will allow you to have as many of any item you want. Just as there were in D2. I don't believe there is going to be any way to avoid that. I am not sure what you mean by "prices plummeting" in single player, however. A single player game is, well, single player. There is no economy to speak of.

 

[kavlor]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

Yeah everything that Furvy said.You cant expect Blizzard to come up with some super anti dupe method for single player when you have playing closed Bnet as an option.Sacred 2 method for dealing with this was to simply take a feature away which was the ability to export a character.

 

[stkrause]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

I assume TheWanderer referres to trades via "LAN games", i.e. multiplayer games with singleplayer chars. AFAIK Blizz announced this will not be an option in D3, only "pure" singleplayer and (closed) battle.net. So singleplayer duping will not be an issue.

 

[tomhyde]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

I'm sure Blizzard are giving considerable time, thought and resources into preventing issues.

I guess one method would be to assign each item in your characters possetion and ID number. If the game detects you have 2 items with the same ID number aka a dupe then one is deleted or some other method of control/prevention. The ID number i guess would have to take into account different stats on the same item assuming they intend to have variable mods and stats on items.

The more serious problem with duping SP items if directly related to how much single player trading support they intend to provide. If we pretend there is going to be zero single player trading (this does not include swapping items between characters on the same account) then what goes on on a single machine is no big issue. All the end user is doing is giving himself an unfair advantage over himself which clearly is a bit stupid.

If on the other hand we pretend that there is going to be masses of support for SP trading in the form of (for argument sake) auction houses or other means then clearly SP item duping is a massive concern.This also applies if we take the middle ground in a simlar fashion to what we have now. Basically any form of single player trading then duping needs to be prevented at all costs or at far as is possible.

No offence to any communities out there but I really do hope that Blizzard plan to support SP trading so we can have a nice interface without having to do deals on forums and PMing stash files to one another with 3rd party programs etc. There is so much room to make a really impressive environment for single player trading if they can make a system work well.

 

[Ishtor]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

This is how i see it, the metod describe will only allow duping in offline play, and theta if they dont take the precautions to do stop this, honestly it does not matter either way.

There probally will not be a trading interface made for single play offline, if you want to be able to trade and do the other online benifits, then you need to play online.

 

[Krugar]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

As it was said a few posts above, there is indeed no way of preventing this and character editors and hacks/cheats will always make their way into SP land. Diablo 3 will be no different. In fact, it will build a crowd of such things.

All in all, I don't see this as a problem. Under strict SP mode it's pretty much my business what I want to do or not with the game. Hacks and cheats do have a certain potential to extend the game enjoyment, if used wisely. But technically there is really nothing Blizzard can do about this, neither I'm sure there is any motivation to do something about it.

 

[poltergeist]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

There is no reason to even TRY to prevent duping in single-player. Bliz doesn't give a crap about the "economy" of SP, they already know it will be full of hacked characters and items.

Are they even going to offer an "open" b-net? I had the impression that the only multiplayer option available would be closed realms. No LAN, no TCP/IP, no open b-net. Which, to me, is a great idea because it would force people to actually pay for the game if they want to get the most out of it.

To me, single-player should be open to editors dupes and hacks if for no other purpose than to test builds, try out items, and mess around. Besides, the only thing that actually matters to anyone is closed ladder.

 

[Fox VII]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

As stated above, "single" player imples that their isn't an economy. Well, Blizzard may put a built in shared stash and let you mule with yourself, but that doesn't count.

I would be shocked if there wasn't eventually dupping, character editors and item creators for single player. :whistling: The obvious reason these exist, is because people want them.

Do you think experimenting with various builds in single player by using the above mentioned methods causes harm to the game? Regardless, many people will choose to do so, in order to plan out what kind of multiplayer character they want to strive to have. I can't really blame someone for not wanting to spend hundreds or even thousands of hours on a toon to later find out their character isn't any good.

Personally, I hope that the respec system will eliminate this desire to cheat in even single player, because less editors will probably extend the games overall longevity, since people will not be rushing through content faster than the game intends.

 

[da fleegsta]

Re: Will Duping be more in D3 Sp?

SIMPLE FIX:

they could always just make the characters sharing bank online only.. so then your single player characters wont be able to use it.

edit: ofcourse this would piss off alot of single player only players