Wich weapon of theese two?

BoneBender

Diabloii.Net Member
Wich weapon of theese two?

Well i have a hellslayer that i can use for my concbarb, i havent spent any points in mastery yet.
And there is this guy who wanna trade my hellslayer for his bonehew..

I dont care if this is a fair trade..
I just wanna know wich weapon is the best choise for my concbarb?

http://www.diabloii.net/items/uniques/weapons_polearms-elite.shtml
Weapon one: Bonehew (polearm class)
Ogre Axe +(270-320)%
Enhanced Damage +30%
Increased Attack Speed
Level 14 Corpse Explosion (30 Charges)
50% Chance to cast level 16 Bone Spear on striking
Prevents Monster Healing
Socketed (2)
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http://www.diabloii.net/items/uniques/weapons_axes-elite.shtml
Weapon two:
Hellslayer (Axe Class)
Decapitator
+100% Enhanced Damage
+3% Max Damage per Clvl
Adds 150-250 fire damage
+0.5 Strength per Clvl
+0.5 Vitality per Clvl
+25 to Life
10% Chance to cast level (13 - 22) Fire Ball when attacking
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The Axe got a veryslow attack speed, but have higher damage(in higher clvl but not higher base dmg), and its got (+ dmg pr clvl) If i go for axe class i can use a zerker-axe later. I also like the +str and +vit pr clvl.

BUT

If i go for the polearm, i have higher attack speed, longer range,
and it got some nice mods, it gives me 30 charges of corpse explosion. And it prevent monster from healing...

So im really confused of what to go for....
Any help out there? and please dont just write "use the axe" Tell me your reasons of your choise..
 

shade449

Diabloii.Net Member
Itd help if you state the exact stats of the bonehew but even if its a low one id still go with the bonehew. It has pretty nice damage and two sockets. And the pmh helps alot when you fight dclone. If you ever decide to disband your conc barb you can always give it to a merc as it makes an excellent merc weapon. Also value wise your getting a much better deal since hellslayers are a dime a dozen these days.
 

BoneBender

Diabloii.Net Member
Im at work now so i cant find the exact stats, but it is about 480dmg and its a "dirty" one, with 2 jewels, 22-54 firedmg and 1-99 lightningdmg.. I can remove those jewels.. But still the axe got some good mods to.. At higher lvls that axe gives like +40life +40str and a hughe damage..

But I guess i could remove the jewels in the bonehew, and add a +30%ED or something?
 

BoneBender

Diabloii.Net Member
Ok not too much response on this one..
Ill follow shade449`s tip then,
CLean the bonehew and add a ED *** and maybe a shael to get it faster? Or maybe a +14all res ***?
 

Herald of Doom

Diabloii.Net Member
conc barb works best with a shield, but if you insist on using a twohanded weapon , and i have to choose one of those, Hellslayer would be a really bad choice imo. It's way to slow, but the range is the same, both 3.
 

BoneBender

Diabloii.Net Member
I know that i should use 1h weapon with a shield. But for the moment i cant get my hands on a descent 1h weapon... I was thinking of maxing axe mastery, and use the hellslayer, then maybe ill get a nice zerker axe later...
So your only argument for not using Hellslayer are the "very slow" attack speed?
 

Herald of Doom

Diabloii.Net Member
BoneBender said:
I know that i should use 1h weapon with a shield. But for the moment i cant get my hands on a descent 1h weapon... I was thinking of maxing axe mastery, and use the hellslayer, then maybe ill get a nice zerker axe later...
So your only argument for not using Hellslayer are the "very slow" attack speed?
Yes. But it's a very good arguement :teeth:
even if you shael it it will still be only [-10], and thats really slow for a concentration barb. Ofcourse you maybe have ias on your other gear, but it will never be as fast a the bonehew. I think the stats on hellslayer are great, but even Messerschimd would be better. that one has already [-10] without shael, and similar mods.
 

BoneBender

Diabloii.Net Member
Ok, at clvl 99 I would have about 686 maxdmg on the hellslayer..
But i assume that faster attackspeed on bonehew would gain up for that. Thanks for help and opinions.
Ill go for bonehew with Ed jewel and a shael or res jewel.
 

BoneBender

Diabloii.Net Member
yeah, but i would like some more dmg.... And since my resistance sucks i might wanna have a all res thingy there
 

hittitian

Diabloii.Net Member
Hellslayer though...

we built a hellslayer berserker barb in 1.09 days for a pure meph killing. Combined with laying of hands and inherent +50% dmg to demons in axe classes, a barb with maxed bers skill and hellslayer was able to kill meph by 3-4 swings. This may not be true any more since now act bosses and minions have huge hit point to endanger defense penalty from zerking w/o shield a lot more dangerous. And, it is extremely difficult to get to hell meph without enigma nowadays. So, this built, I guess has died away.

It was a good axe in 1.09 days but now became useless for barbs.
 

Halciet

Diabloii.Net Member
hittitian said:
and inherent +50% dmg to demons in axe classes
Axes have never actually had the 50% damage to demons mod. This is just false information posted on diabloii.net that they really should've corrected oh...two years ago.

=/

-Hal
 

hittitian

Diabloii.Net Member
Halciet said:
Axes have never actually had the 50% damage to demons mod. This is just false information posted on diabloii.net that they really should've corrected oh...two years ago.

=/

-Hal
Oh, that's my bad. Would have been nice if they actually have the bonus though.
 

JohnofTesh

Diabloii.Net Member
Of the 4, 2-handed elite axes, messerschmidts reaver, hellslayer, ethereal edge and exectioners justice, I pick hellslayer last. Same reason as everyone else...

Bonehew requires 195 strength. Is that going to be compatible with your end-build?

Only problem with using the corpse explosion might be the repair cost.
 

piggiz

Diabloii.Net Member
Scrub0 said:
Bonehew double-shaeled is the way to go....hellslayer really sucks.
I beg to differ. I have got an ethereal hell-slayer with an max base dmg of 900++. Kills almost everything in 1 or 2 blows. when used with a berserk barb it rocks.
 

BoneBender

Diabloii.Net Member
Bonehew requires 195 strength
well, ik gloves, ik belt, duriels shell = 65str..
So i dont think it will be a problem, my bas str is 160 atm i think.

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I traded my hellslayer for that bonehew, and cleaned it, and put a 37%Ed jewel in it, so it got like 695dmg now..

But, im kinda worried about using bonewhew/conc in hell difficulty, I have no shield...

Is this really as important that everyone wants it to be?
My only other option is to borrow a razors edge from friend... but it got kinda low damage... max 190 or something.. but then i can use a shield with it..

hmm maybe I should use that one, max axe mastery, and go for a botd zerker later (like i`ll ever find a zod)....
 

sorcyone

Banned
Very good trade. Bonehew is worth about 100 Hellslayers in trade value.

Bonehew can be used on a merc, or a WW baba (which also prevents that annoying bone spear).
 
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