why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
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nicro tower
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Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
That and most people with ondals just sit there and watch.
That and most people with ondals just sit there and watch.
omgwtfbbqpwned
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Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
But unless it's some really pathetic group, all you really need is two or three Sorcs spamming and a decent Conviction aura running. It's not like everyone needs to contribute. But yeah, I agree, 8 people with Ondals =/= productive Baal run.
But unless it's some really pathetic group, all you really need is two or three Sorcs spamming and a decent Conviction aura running. It's not like everyone needs to contribute. But yeah, I agree, 8 people with Ondals =/= productive Baal run.
deadbeater
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Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
They are the same people who aren't killing anybody. They really lose xp that way.
They are the same people who aren't killing anybody. They really lose xp that way.
krischan
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Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
I thought that only the Baal bot does the killing in games where the clueless "omg ondals steals xp" guys typically are
, so that wouldn't be an argument in that case. Mobbing is rather popular among people in their puberty, I think that's a major factor.
In games where everybody helps at killing, I see nothing wrong with a sorc using Ondal's while everybody else would rightfully be considered a leech. Not because of the 5% XP, but because that staff prevents them from being effective.
I thought that only the Baal bot does the killing in games where the clueless "omg ondals steals xp" guys typically are
, so that wouldn't be an argument in that case. Mobbing is rather popular among people in their puberty, I think that's a major factor.In games where everybody helps at killing, I see nothing wrong with a sorc using Ondal's while everybody else would rightfully be considered a leech. Not because of the 5% XP, but because that staff prevents them from being effective.
wretchedangel
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
i dont really lose that much effectiveness when i use ondals
500 less max damage isnt that much
i still do 10k+ fire ball at 105% fcr, and i static like a madman to speed the run up (+15 all skills helps the radius a ton lol)
my resists take a hit so when the hydras come out i have to tele away fast or switch to my HoTo/Spirit
+13% exp gain is great (8% anni+5% ondals)
i dont really lose that much effectiveness when i use ondals
500 less max damage isnt that much
i still do 10k+ fire ball at 105% fcr, and i static like a madman to speed the run up (+15 all skills helps the radius a ton lol)
my resists take a hit so when the hydras come out i have to tele away fast or switch to my HoTo/Spirit
+13% exp gain is great (8% anni+5% ondals)
sirpoopsalot
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
A singer-barb (used more for crowd control than killing) could use Ondal's without really loosing much effectiveness too. But otherwise I agree - I can't think of (m)any other non-sorc builds that wouldn't loose quite a bit of effectiveness by using Ondal's over a "better" weapon.
lionheartthebrave
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
I've heard Ondal's makes the other people sterile...
Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
This is the truth.
Either that or people are morons. I can never remember which one! :shrug:
This is the truth.
Either that or people are morons. I can never remember which one! :shrug:
deadbeater
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
A sorc can actually use the staff offensively, especially if she is meteorb.I thought that only the Baal bot does the killing in games where the clueless "omg ondals steals xp" guys typically are
In games where everybody helps at killing, I see nothing wrong with a sorc using Ondal's while everybody else would rightfully be considered a leech. Not because of the 5% XP, but because that staff prevents them from being effective.
Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
For God's sake — think of the children...
But it makes people sterile!
For God's sake — think of the children...
SnickerSnack
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=666711
I've been warning people about the dangers of ondal's for months.
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=666711
stephan
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: why ondal forbidden in baalruns?
If the high level char is in the same party and in the neighborhood of the kills, it would. Experience is shared using a ratio of clvl/[sum of clvl of party members in area].
Of course, the higher level might speed up the run by a significant amount so that the effect over time is canceled out.
If the high level char is in the same party and in the neighborhood of the kills, it would. Experience is shared using a ratio of clvl/[sum of clvl of party members in area].
Of course, the higher level might speed up the run by a significant amount so that the effect over time is canceled out.