Why Mac?
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It's kinda...demonic. And well, that's because...Kawaii said:
Did I mention that eMacs come possessed by the soul of satan? That's why they located the on button in a hard to reach location. That's because the entire damned system is not ergonomic or easy to use, no matter what these propoganda possessed OTFers may spit at us. Mac's were not designed to be easy, functional or powerful because they were originally designed for the portion of hell dedicated to programmers and gamers.
Did I mention they use macs in hell?
LuckyDwarf
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If I was older, I'm only sixteen, and I had a job that required a good, stable, computer, then I'd probably go with a Mac. I think that, for an office scenario, a Mac would be the better option, but for my adolescent gaming I prefer my PC. The only thing I don't like about the Mac is the one button mouse, however, I think you can get a two button, but I'm lazy.
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LuckyDwarf
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I reformat computers for $25, it's easy money. I can't believe that a lot of people don't know how to reformat their harddrive. Easy money for me.{KOW}Spazed said:
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What do you need to run with a PC? If you are primarily a gamer, stick with PCs and to heck with VPC.Zarfol said:
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I just played three hours of W3 in full screen on my 15" and it's fine. Ditto for D2, D1, SC, BW, and a few other games. Why the heck would it matter on a laptop and not on a regular PC's monitor, which can range from small to massiv? It looks precisely the same as on a regular computer. I run my everyday at 1280x854 and it swaps between gaming mode and work mode fine. As I said, I can play W3 windowed and do other stuff at the same time with little loss of function.
Your big problem with gaming and Macs will be that most companies don't make Mac games. NWN just came out for mac; WoW and Everquest etc. are all for Mac, but some of my old favorites...like Age of Empires...aren't. I've often debated getting a PC box for gaming, but there's nothing out there I really miss except for AoE.
Building your own PC is great and I've done it before. I also know that it can be a total disaster if you try to mix old and new parts and start discovering what part aren't compatable, which drivers are suddenly out of date, and so on. It's only easy if you're buying everything new, and that can end up as expensive as buying a put-together system.There's also the hassle of finding companies that will refund busted computer parts if they send them to you broken.
If you are too lazy to go to freakin' CVS or a bookstore or Bestbuy and pick up a 19 dollar optical mouse, you should be checked out by a doctor, since you're obviously in a coma. :cheesy:
Windows was recently vomiting physical memory after 10 minutes in screensaver mode for me. So I can well recall the last time it crashed. XP, too.
adamfgt78
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Let's see if I can sum this up:
All-around speed: Each platform's high end systems are probably about the same for your average user.
Graphics applications: I guess this would go to Macs, though I wonder if its mostly for historical reasons. Sure, for hugely processor heavy jobs, I've heard Mac is better. But, for example, my friend's dad has a small advertising firm and the whole office uses Mac's for graphical publishing and such. But if all you're doing is using Photoshop and various Adobe apps, can't it be done just as well and quickly on a PC? I suspect that all the apps were originally for Macs and people just got used to them and there was no good reason to switch.
Gaming: PC, hands down. The number of games dwarfs that of the Mac. And I can't think of any major titles that are released on the Mac that aren't on the PC.
Utility programs: Equal. Both can do the web, email and word processing equally well. And this is the vast, vast majority of computer use, isn't it?
Fixability: Others have stated that Mac's are easier to fix. But I'm going to counter this by pointing out that there are way less people knowledgable about Macs to give assist. My ex-gf was foolishly advised by the school computer store(computer's were mandatory) to get a Mac because it would be easier to use and fix. But NO ONE knew even the most basic functions and troubleshooting so she was stuck with a half broken-down Mac. So if you're going to go Mac, make sure that you know a person or two from whom to get help.
Usability: I can't really say. I've been using PC's for so long and so used to them, my ability to judge whether XP is good in this regard is clouded. I don't know if I can use it well because it is designed well or if I'm just accustomed to it. And my ability to judge the Mac is scewed because any design other than one like XP will be difficult for me. Or perhaps Apple needs to consider that the majority of new users have a PC background and design the interface accordingly? I can't really say though since my Mac usage is limited.
Stability: Well, we've got anecdotal evidence against either side. But I've heard that Mac's are quite stable and my experience with XP has been that it is quite stable. So its probably about equal.
Price: PC's seem to be cheaper, but Mac's really aren't that bad. We're only looking at a couple hundred dollars difference at the high end.
Style: About equal now. When Apple came back on the scene 4 or 5 years ago with the colorful ibook and iMac, the Mac's were way ahead. PC's only used to come in plain beige boxes. Now you can get them in a variety of styles and can custimize with flourescent lights and such.
Image: Macs have kind of a hip image that might appeal to some people. Not teenager hip, but more like a upper-middle class, Saabish, pacific northwest type hip.
History: Due to Apple not allowing third party companies, the Mac didn't skyrocket to popularity like the PC. We've all pretty much grown up using PCs and this is with what we are comfortable. Users' history of using PC is a hugely powerful force and is not to be underestimated. Now Applie is really pushing to gain marketshare and I think this history is the biggest obstacle to overcome.
And the short answer is: if you play a lot of games, go PC. If you don't, then either is an acceptable choice and up to personal preference.
All-around speed: Each platform's high end systems are probably about the same for your average user.
Graphics applications: I guess this would go to Macs, though I wonder if its mostly for historical reasons. Sure, for hugely processor heavy jobs, I've heard Mac is better. But, for example, my friend's dad has a small advertising firm and the whole office uses Mac's for graphical publishing and such. But if all you're doing is using Photoshop and various Adobe apps, can't it be done just as well and quickly on a PC? I suspect that all the apps were originally for Macs and people just got used to them and there was no good reason to switch.
Gaming: PC, hands down. The number of games dwarfs that of the Mac. And I can't think of any major titles that are released on the Mac that aren't on the PC.
Utility programs: Equal. Both can do the web, email and word processing equally well. And this is the vast, vast majority of computer use, isn't it?
Fixability: Others have stated that Mac's are easier to fix. But I'm going to counter this by pointing out that there are way less people knowledgable about Macs to give assist. My ex-gf was foolishly advised by the school computer store(computer's were mandatory) to get a Mac because it would be easier to use and fix. But NO ONE knew even the most basic functions and troubleshooting so she was stuck with a half broken-down Mac. So if you're going to go Mac, make sure that you know a person or two from whom to get help.
Usability: I can't really say. I've been using PC's for so long and so used to them, my ability to judge whether XP is good in this regard is clouded. I don't know if I can use it well because it is designed well or if I'm just accustomed to it. And my ability to judge the Mac is scewed because any design other than one like XP will be difficult for me. Or perhaps Apple needs to consider that the majority of new users have a PC background and design the interface accordingly? I can't really say though since my Mac usage is limited.
Stability: Well, we've got anecdotal evidence against either side. But I've heard that Mac's are quite stable and my experience with XP has been that it is quite stable. So its probably about equal.
Price: PC's seem to be cheaper, but Mac's really aren't that bad. We're only looking at a couple hundred dollars difference at the high end.
Style: About equal now. When Apple came back on the scene 4 or 5 years ago with the colorful ibook and iMac, the Mac's were way ahead. PC's only used to come in plain beige boxes. Now you can get them in a variety of styles and can custimize with flourescent lights and such.
Image: Macs have kind of a hip image that might appeal to some people. Not teenager hip, but more like a upper-middle class, Saabish, pacific northwest type hip.
History: Due to Apple not allowing third party companies, the Mac didn't skyrocket to popularity like the PC. We've all pretty much grown up using PCs and this is with what we are comfortable. Users' history of using PC is a hugely powerful force and is not to be underestimated. Now Applie is really pushing to gain marketshare and I think this history is the biggest obstacle to overcome.
And the short answer is: if you play a lot of games, go PC. If you don't, then either is an acceptable choice and up to personal preference.
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That's telekinesis, Kyle!
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iq144 said:
WTF. . .I have never had a problem or heard of anyone besides you having those problems.iq144 said:
Did they forget to tell you that the one Mac that wen't down was the main bootdisk/HD of the others? That was set up as a cluster node, it would happen if you set up PCs like that.iq144 said:
DurfBarian
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My company just got an unlimited copy of 10.3 Server . . . a new toy to play with! Hope I don't take down the entire office or something.
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I think my problem in this world of macs and pcs is that I've been using pcs at home for over 10 years (as a little kid and his dos games :drool: ). For the same amount of time, I've been using macs and apples in school, and well thats in school, so my experience is with machines that have been genuinely messed up by creative students :flip:
I also realize that my current windows 98 system is getting quite old, and thats where my probs are coming from...
Oh, and I just plain out don't like the single mouse feature of macs either... (its slower imo)
And with crashing, it happens a lot for me on macs too... Not to say windows doesn't, it does, it did when i was printing out my final for a computers class... Lucky me the teacher knew i was the l33t kid in the class and just gave me an A
I also realize that my current windows 98 system is getting quite old, and thats where my probs are coming from...
Oh, and I just plain out don't like the single mouse feature of macs either... (its slower imo)
And with crashing, it happens a lot for me on macs too... Not to say windows doesn't, it does, it did when i was printing out my final for a computers class... Lucky me the teacher knew i was the l33t kid in the class and just gave me an A
