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Why Liberals are Fascists - an article by Dr. Jack Wheeler

hmmm... how to set off the the next great poo storm...? Ah yes. This will do quite nicely.


Dissecting Leftism said:
WHY LIBERALS ARE FASCISTS

By Dr. Jack Wheeler

Doesn't it seem odd that the kids who started the 60s anti-establishment protest riots on college campuses with the Free Speech Movement (Berkeley, 1964) are the college professors or politicians today who most vehemently suppress free speech among their students or constituents in the name of political correctness? How can this be? How can worshipping at the shrines of Diversity, Tolerance, and Multiculturalism result in trials and expulsions for students, or jail for citizens, who express ideas with which the worshippers are not in agreement? The answer is the intimate connection between Subjectivism and Fascism.

The core metaphysical assertion of liberals is that there are no absolute truths, factually or morally. What's true for you may not be true for me, it's all a matter of perspective, who are you to say what is right or wrong, true or false. Truth is a matter of subjective opinion, it is relative to the values of different people. This belief, which lies at the very center of the liberal view of the world, is known as Subjectivism or Relativism. It's opposite, Objectivism, the assertion that there are in fact absolute truths, both moral and factual about the nature of reality regardless of anyone's opinion or desires, horrifies liberals. They think such an assertion leads straight to tyranny and fascism.

Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), the founder of Fascism as a political movement (after the Latin fasces, the bundle of rods used by Rome to symbolize strength through unity) vehemently disagreed. In his 1921 essay Diuturna (The Lasting, that which endures), Mussolini made it clear that moral relativism was his rationale for Fascism: If relativism signifies contempt for fixed categories and those who claim to be the bearers of objective immortal truth, then there is nothing more relativistic than Fascist attitudes and activity. From the fact that all ideologies are of equal value, we Fascists conclude that we have the right to create our own ideology and to enforce it with all the energy of which we are capable.

Liberals follow Mussolini's conclusion to the letter. Preaching tolerance, they have no tolerance for anyone's opinions but their own. Anyone they disagree with they call racist' or sexist' or homophobic' or some other denigration. Liberal intolerance, of course, goes way beyond mere disagreement and name-calling. They want to criminalize the beliefs and actions of those with whom they disagree....

Liberal "tolerance" is forcing people at the point of a gun to believe and act as liberals demand. You don't get more fascist than that. California's Attorney General, Bill Lockyer, is, however, trying. He is actually trying to criminalize disagreement on "global warming." In his lawsuit against such prominent scientists as MIT Professor of Meteorology Richard Lindzen and Harvard astrophysicist Sallie Baliunas, Lockyer accuses them of being "climate skeptics," who are playing "a major role in spreading disinformation about global warming." ...

The only way to combat liberal lunacy like that on exhibit in California is to attack it at its source: liberal subjectivism leading directly to fascism. It will do no good for liberals to bleat about religious absolutists, be they Christian or Moslem, who believe they have a right to force people into behaving as they want because that's what the Bible or the Koran says. That's a red herring. Don't let liberals switch the issue. The issue here is the fundamental contradiction in their world-view, not anyone else's. Liberals cannot argue for relativism in morality and claim there are no moral truths, then claim their moral values magically have more validity than anyone else's.

When you argue there are no objective moral truths, the only way to settle a moral disagreement is at the point of a gun. Mussolini understood this, and he had the intellectual honesty to admit it. Liberals understand it too, but they don't want to admit it, least of all to themselves. It still makes them fascists, nonetheless.

Demonstrating how and why liberals are fascists is their Achilles' Heel. Name-calling is a liberal specialty, and they are fond of calling their opponents "fascists." But using reason and logic to expose how they are demonstrably in fact fascists can be effective. Combat liberalism by publicly exposing it as fascism.
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I love tweaking the nose of the left.:thumbsup:
 

Yaboosh

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Assumptions and unproven assertions oh my!


The article is worth about as much as one of your posts, smeg, so I guess you could start calling yourself Dr. Smeg.
 

SuggestiveName

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Moral relativism leads to nihilism, not facism.

But then again, this article isn't about moral relativism, its about the objective truth of Christianity and Christian Morals(TM).

Weak sauce.
 

DurfBarian

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This week the right wing blogs are instructing us to post things about fascism and the ways that terrorists and Democrats are into it. So here's another copy-paste job. Stay tuned next week, when the trope will be "Why All Airports Need to Be Renamed After Reagan."
 

Sokar Rostau

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You might be the biggest tool but you're not the brightest spark are you?

For the fifth(?) time I ask you to define fascism.

If that question doesn't make you flee the thread, as per usual, I will also ask you this one: How do you reconcile your (undefined parrot-speak) claim of Islamic fascism, somehow threatening America's freedom, with this article when Islamic fundamentalists are by definition conservatives?

Since you like throwing **** at people you can tell me something else, Monkeyboy. Why is it okay for 'conservatives' like yourself to embrace name calling by branding 'liberals' as retarded Frenchy cowards intent on destroying America, but it isn't okay for 'liberals' to brand 'conservatives' fascists intent on destroying America?
 

Dondrei

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Wading through Smeg's usual vapid drivel, I'm amused to note that once again Mussolini is being used to paint the left (conflated for the purposes of the article with "liberals") as fascist because his particular fascist regime was left-wing. Like I couldn't find an example of a right-wing fascist regime...

Fascism is on both sides of the fence. Libertarian/authoritarian is a separate axis to left/right, to use the language of that political views poll.

article said:
When you argue there are no objective moral truths, the only way to settle a moral disagreement is at the point of a gun.
What difference does it make whether the morality is objective or subjective? If anything it is the objectivist that is motivated to point guns, given he thinks he's right (TM).
 

Sokar Rostau

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Smeg said:
Until Pres. Wacky Macky Amajinglejangle and his government are blownt o hamburger, the war cannot hope to ever come to an end.

Let's get our troops out of Iraq and into Iran and finish the damned job.
Smeg said:
You expected him to resign? HAHAHA!!! Don't bother with the mainstream media - they're morons. You also likely think the EMOcrats are going to win the house too

Go ahead, start a civil war.
Nope, conservatives don't call people names do they?

And if anyone is going to cause a civil war in America it is the people like you that are intent on suppressing dissent and crushing internal opposition. Then you really can call liberals terrorists because they will be freedom fighters trying to get back what you took from them - freedom.
 

Pitboss_2000

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I beg to differ:

America has all of the 14 defining characteristics of Fascism and, like sheep, we passively endure our fleecing : Allen L Roland

With the four horseman of hubris ( Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Bush ) in full gallop, shouting their war cry of 'Islamic fascism' and systematically misquoting and demonizing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ~ it's time for America to review the 14 characteristics of fascism and, in the process, face our own growing neocon fascist state.

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each ~ and America has all of them.

Allen L Roland


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, Islamic fascists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
 

S Z

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This is possibly the lamest attempt at forcing a counter-message to Conservatives without Conscience that I've read so far. One could pick it apart, but really what's the point when the arguement presented is so tenuous?
 

Drosselmeier

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S Z said:
This is possibly the lamest attempt at forcing a counter-message to Conservatives without Conscience that I've read so far. One could pick it apart, but really what's the point when the arguement presented is so tenuous?
Another problem is that when you've picked it apart Smeg will run and hide. It will take weeks of harassment to get him to admit to any problem in the argument he's endorsing. I'll stay away from that article too. Instead I'll post something from Wheelers site, for your amusement. If you read this insane garbage long enough...
[Dr. Jack will] explain why:

* It is envy that makes a Communist, Nazi, or Moslem Terrorist. It is the fear of being envied that makes a liberal.
* Liberalism is not a political philosophy or coherent set of beliefs. It is a psychological strategy to avoid being envied.
* All forms of leftism and liberalism are based on an atavistic belief in Black Magic. All are based on the primitive fear of the envious Evil Eye.
* Islam, including the biography of Mohammed and the text of the Koran, was invented in the centuries after the Arab Conquest as a religious rationale for Arab imperialism.
* "Mohammed" is not a name, it is a title meaning The Praised One. His real name was Ubu'l Kassim and he did not come from Mecca. He was a bandit chieftain from what is now southern Jordan.
* Saudi Arabia, just like the Soviet Union, is a colonial empire within its own borders. It will break apart just as did the USSR.
* China is busy surrounding itself with countries capable of aiming nuclear missiles at it.
* China is in very serious economic jeopardy, summarized by the Three No's: No water, no wives, no banks. The entire financial and banking system of China is facing collapse.
* The economic collapse of China will precipitate an attack on either Taiwan or Russia (to seize the Primorski Krai in Siberia which once was China's) as an attempt to overcome economic disaster by appeals to jingoistic Chinese nationalism.
* Russia is doomed as a culture due to its inheritance of Mongol concepts of justice and equality.
* The only Americans who owe reparations to the descendants of slaves are the descendants of slave owners. These people are one and the same, i.e., American blacks are a racial mix of white slave owner and black slave. Blacks owe reparations to themselves.
* The next insanity to come in the homosexual assault on the American Family will be PHM: Polygamous Homosexual Marriage. Pathologically promiscuous homosexuals will consider their "marriage" a legalism that will in no way prevent them from adultery en masse. To maintain the pretense of "marriage" however, they will have to quickly begin agitating for the legalization of group sodomization as "just another form of the married life-style".
* The "Original Jurisdiction" clause in the Constitution (Article III, Section 2, Clause 2) offers a way to quickly obliterate Roe v. Wade and teach the Supreme Court a lesson it badly needs to learn: to never again invent non-existent rights in The Constitution.
Emphasis mine. :shocked:
 

SaroDarksbane

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Question for Smeg:

Since, from your article, subjectivism and fascism go hand in hand, could you please explain why you continue to refer to terrorists as "Islamofascists"? They are most certainly not moral subjectivists.
 

S Z

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Drosselmeier said:
[Dr. Jack will] explain why:

* It is envy that makes a Communist, Nazi, or Moslem Terrorist. It is the fear of being envied that makes a liberal.
* Liberalism is not a political philosophy or coherent set of beliefs. It is a psychological strategy to avoid being envied.
* All forms of leftism and liberalism are based on an atavistic belief in Black Magic. All are based on the primitive fear of the envious Evil Eye.
My word that's fantastic :laugh:

Cheers Dross :flowers:
 

Drosselmeier

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S Z said:
My word that's fantastic :laugh:

Cheers Dross :flowers:
Check out the rest of his site. Craziness aplenty. For example, this bio:

http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/1117/90/

When people talk about themselves in third person I always get a little suspicious. When they write stuff like "Jack Wheeler is quite possibly the most fascinating individual you have ever known" about themselves I get really worried.

:laugh:
 

Dondrei

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LOL, the Evil Eye... I wish I could've been bothered reading that far.

Smeg is like an enthusiastic sports fan. He likes to put on his scarf and pom-pom hat, stand in the stadium and yell at the players; worshipping his team and deriding the opposition. But that's as deep as it goes. He doesn't even believe half the crap he spouts - hell, he hasn't even thought about it. It's just an idiotic game of my-team-is-better-than-your-team to him. He might just as easily have been a leftie nut if he'd picked the blue scarf and sweater instead of the red.
 
Sokar Rostau said:
You might be the biggest tool but you're not the brightest spark are you?
I can't help if if you're not bright enough to see the light.

For the fifth(?) time I ask you to define fascism.
And for the umpteenth time I'm going to tell you that you'll accept to definition.

If that question doesn't make you flee the thread, as per usual, I will also ask you this one: How do you reconcile your (undefined parrot-speak) claim of Islamic fascism, somehow threatening America's freedom, with this article when Islamic fundamentalists are by definition conservatives?
Is that...? It is! Finally! A question of substance!

Islamofascism is utilizing the basics of fascism (government control, censorship, homophobia, hatred of jews, etc.) while at the same time keeping iwth their backwards ways. Government control is a well known aspect of liberalism. Taken to a further level and it become fascism - where the government runs everything. Censorship - another leftist principal. Look to ABC for all you need to know. Homophobia isn't claimed to be a leftist principal yet it is commonly used to destroy political opponents. And hatred of jews. This the hard one to get the left to accept. Militant Islam of today hates jews. The left hates them as well. Look to their treatment of Israel for all you need to know.

The Islamofascists are conservative only in their still living in the 7th century. Their government is fascist i.e. liberal.

Since you like throwing **** at people you can tell me something else, Monkeyboy. Why is it okay for 'conservatives' like yourself to embrace name calling by branding 'liberals' as retarded Frenchy cowards intent on destroying America, but it isn't okay for 'liberals' to brand 'conservatives' fascists intent on destroying America?
I poke fun at groups and at nutjob leaders (i.e. Wacky Macky). You're making a personal insult which if I'm not mistaken is against the rules. As such, enjoy being reported for it.

dondrei said:
Wading through Smeg's usual vapid drivel, I'm amused to note that once again Mussolini is being used to paint the left (conflated for the purposes of the article with "liberals") as fascist because his particular fascist regime was left-wing. Like I couldn't find an example of a right-wing fascist regime...
Wrong! Fascism is only labeled as right wing. Everything it stands for though is leftist. Fascism is only right wing if you're a communist. What it is, is extremely authoritarian - which to the common man isn't a liberal concept. Yet that is incorrect. Under leftist government, everything is under their control. It's the government controlling everything. If that's not authoritarian, then nothing is.

Fascism is on both sides of the fence. Libertarian/authoritarian is a separate axis to left/right, to use the language of that political views poll
Except that fascism is about government control. A leftist concept.

Sokar Rostau said:
And if anyone is going to cause a civil war in America it is the people like you that are intent on suppressing dissent and crushing internal opposition. Then you really can call liberals terrorists because they will be freedom fighters trying to get back what you took from them - freedom.
Do you really think that the left would start a civil war? And you call me dumb. Sheesh.

Exacly how would a bunch of cowards and peaceniks expect to win a war?
 
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