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Who's been to Vegas?

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  1. nosoup4crr

    nosoup4crr IncGamers Member

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    Who's been to Vegas?

    So...my 21st birthday is April 27th. A couple friends and I have been planning a trip to Las Vegas for as long as I can remember. I plan on taking 1000 dollars to last me a week. I've been told this should be enough. If you've been to Vegas, let me know what kind of financial commitment I'm making. Also tell me what you enjoyed most while you were there, so that I can make sure to take it in. I can't wait. I've never been out of the southeast, and Vegas is sounding amazing.

    Thanks,

    Chris.
     
  2. llad12

    llad12 IncGamers Member

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    I have been to Vegas many times.

    There are two main areas to gamble ... the Strip and Downtown. The Strip is generally more expensive although you can find cheaper casinos (such as the Casino Royale) if you look.

    Tables, such as Blackjack or Craps are generally $5.00 min bets ... slots range from penny to as high as you can stomach.

    A week is a long time to gamble ... I usually stay only 3-4 days. Find a junket with airfare and hotel ... it's cheaper.

    Take in some shows ... you can find where they are using Google and who is in town. Book 'em in advance if you can. They will usually have someone you are interested in.

    I would recommend that you practice if you play the tables. The casinos already have an edge when you walk in... there is no need to make it worse by inaccurate play on the tables.

    Use a money management technique ... if you don't you are almost certain to lose.

    Best of luck!
     
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    nosoup4crr IncGamers Member

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    I'm going to use the technique which I think suits a lot of people when they head to Vegas. I'm only going to take the amount of money I'm willing to lose. That said, I'm decent at poker. I've won a tournamant or two. Whereas I don't expect to win due to this, i expect not to lose as quickly, heh. In any case, money isn't my concern. i just want to have a good time. Shows and food are going to be a large part of the trip, not to mention just having a great time withs ome close friends.
     
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    I've been there once, with about $300, while under 21, and had one of the best times of my life. Gambling is one of the biggest wastes of money, IMHO. Just enjoy the atmosphere - the epitome of entertainment.
     
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    Are you planning on playing all the regular games like blackjack, craps etc, or are you thinking about going into a card room at one of the casino's and playing a 2/4 or 3/6 poker game? If your decent at poker like you said you shouldn't lose that much money in the card rooms as long as you pick an easy table.
     
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    I agree that taking only the amount you are willing to lose is a smart move. Know the amount you can lose is good ... but, on the other hand, don't limit what you can win ;)

    The money management technique that I was referring to is best used on the craps and blackjack tables.

    In a nutshell this is it:

    The house is going to win more hands than you in the long run. Their advantage guarantees it.

    But that doesn't mean that you can't win a fortune on any given night.

    Play smart with money management.

    Start low and increase your bet as you win. When you lose, start over.

    For instance:

    Start at $5.00 if you win the hand, then increase your bet on the next hand to

    2. $10.00
    3. $15.00 Now you have your original bet back
    4. $25.00
    5. $25.00 hey, we all need a little padding
    6. $35.00
    7. $50.00
    8. $75.00
    9. keep going higher until you lose. Then start over

    If you play with this technique, then when the house is winning, they are only winning your min bets. You are playing "tough" and they must work to take your hard-earned cash.

    What you are looking for is a run of hands in succession. If you get a run, watch the bucks come in ... be it on the craps table or blackjack. When it works, you are playing with their money. It doesn't always happen, but it is a good way to gamble.

    Consider these runs as an overall play and, for God's sake, don't chase your lost money. You will be known as a "steamer" and the casino smiles at those type of players as they know they are going to take 'em to the cleaners.

    The tough part is knowing when to quit .... :p
     
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    Yaboosh IncGamers Member

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    That is the beauty of poker. The casino gets theirs with the rake but you get yours because people are morons and cap off betting with anything. You have to tighten up, but you hit the nuts and you are going to get paid off for them.
     
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    A week is far too long in Vegas. I've been there maybe half a dozen times, and have found three nights to be the perfect length of time. Also, you can expect that $1000 to go pretty fast at the poker table, even if you are a good player. Everything else is pretty expensive too, except the rooms.

    Don't go for nearly that long.
     
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    Not to mention the increasing costs for prostitutes, and escort services. It just makes me sick.
     
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    1000 at the poker table can last as long as the limits you are playing at allow along with your luck.

    Of course, if you are playing 15/30 NL poker, then no, it will not last longer than an hour if you hit cold cards and bad luck, but hey, stick to the lower limits and you can spend lots and lots of time at the tables.

    I may have to agree though, a week might be a bit too long for Vegas. I am beginning to plan a trip with my brother for next Fall as a graduation present to ourselves, and I think I might do 3 nights, 4 at the most.
     
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    I went with $1000 when I went and ended comming back with like $600 that included meals, gambling losses and shopping. A good think to do if you looking to get drunk one of those nights for a cheap price is to sit in a keno parlor. Bet on everyother game at the minimum which is a dollar or two and when the drink person comes by take the drink.

    Last time I was there I stayed at the New York New York and I had a wonderful time. You may want to join a slot club and get in on some sort of daily free slot tournament. A friend of mine finished 4th and got like $50.
     
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    When I go I will try to win a satellite tournament into a bigger tournament and maybe strike it lucky. A good sized tournament will have a few hundred people in it so first place would pay at least 10k.
     
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    Consider other fun stuff other than gambling. Nudie bars, shows, buffets, clubs (inside the casinos), fine restaurants. If the weather is nice, sneak into the Bellagio pool, MGM pool. etc. By the way, it's March Madness. So rooms will run in the 300 - 400 range.
     
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    Fiesta Casino 99 cent margaritas

    or like sbr said, stay put and rack up the free drinks, though you are expected to tip
     
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    This was told to me by my late father in law (who was a professional gambler) and it works like a charm.

    Get a cheap room in a big hotel/casino (I prefer Binions Horseshoe myself). Book the week with some sort of package deal and you can get in real cheap especially if your with a group of friends.

    Then dress really nice. No Jeans and junk. It doesn't have to be Bond in Casino Royale, but dress nice and wear some gold (Even if you have to borrow it). Looking like you got money helps.

    Then before you sit down at a table scope the area and find out whose the pit boss and who is the Comp Man. The pit boss will never be to far from the table and will be checking everyone out including the dealers. The Comp Man will just be watching the action and the players. When you see who the Comp Man is keep your eye on him. When he's away from your table bet as you want too. BUT when he is near bet twice as much as you would normally bet EVEN IF YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE! When he see's you dumping money in the casino he keeps track. If you lose a lot he will want to keep you in the hotel/casino to lose more and if you win a lot he will want to keep you in the hotel/casino so they can win thier money back.

    I used to go all the time and I always got free suites, dinners, shows, and other freebie COMP's.

    Even if you lose all $1,000 you brought to lose you will have saved money on lodging, food, and entertainment!

    Also if you start to win a lot they will change dealers on you so in the same way if you are losing at a table get up and find a dealer who is hot.

    Tip your waitress and dealers well. Your service will be exponentially better!

    If you like to have a good buzz while gaming you can save money by buying a bottle or two and keeping them in your room. Then order two or three call drinks (best taste but more expensive) while at a card table.

    Stay away from the house well drinks. You might as well drink antifreeze.

    There are a lot of scammers, pickpockets, and professional cons that roam the casinos and outlying areas. Watch yer back!

    DON'T CARRY CASH!

    Have some 5's and 10's on you for drinks and tips and the rest in the chips you are currently gaming with.

    Watch your drinking.

    Oh and have a blast!

    I am just south of Reno for the next few weeks and it's time to go try my luck.

    R++
     
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    This has been said before, but I'll put it a different way. Plan to lose all of the money you bring.

    Spend one night going to a show and/or good restaurant instead of gambling. We didn't do that and I wish we had. We did spend a night sitting outside of the piano bar in NY, NY getting drunk. It was fun to just sit there and take in Vegas and quite a bit cheaper than gambling. Save that for the end of the week when you're getting burnt out.

    Learn the games ahead of time. Inexpensive tables can be harder to find than you may think.

    Explore a lot. After you get a feeling of what the entire strip and downtown is like you'll probably end up with a preference as to where you like to be. Just go there on future trips.

    Realize that most of Vegas isn't like Ocean's Eleven. There aren't guys in tuxes walking around everywhere. It's pretty much exactly like Swingers...old people and dorky tourists are the majority.

    Have fun. If gambling gets old, don't just do it because you feel obligated. If clubbing isn't your thing then avoid that. There's plenty to do that you will enjoy (for a few days at least) so don't waste it doing stuff you can do at home. It's suprisingly entertaining (and long) to just walk up and down the strip cheking out the casinos and gift shops. You can buy drinks and drink them in public there which makes window shopping waaaay more fun. It's really cool at night too because several of the casinos on the strip have free shows.

    Perhaps this was just because I was there with my g-friend and we were a couple, but be warned that you may keep getting bombarded with people offering you free stuff if you go on some crappy tour with them. Unless you're really bored, you'll probably want to avoid it.

    Lastly, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. That random guy hanging out in the bar of the Imperial Room probably does not have front row tickets to Pearl Jam at the Palms. Don't give him money (this actually happend to a friend of mine). ;)
     
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    $1000 bankroll should be enough for low limit, fixed limit poker, provided you aren't a maniac. Be warned, however; the game moves insanely fast if you are used to playing in home or club games, and if you are a loose player that could get into your wallet in a hurry. Look for games between 3-6 and 6-12 in whatever poker game you choose and you should have ample stake.

    The most famous poker rooms are probably at the Mirage and Bellagio.
     

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