Who here still plays an Avenger

[reismj]

Who here still plays an Avenger

As the title says, I'm wondering who here still plays the Avenger build. I started again (along with countless others) when D3 got announced and I was looking for builds. I was looking in a Pre-1.11 section on a different site and chose my build before I realized it was outdated. Either way, I've got a level 41 Avenger and I was looking for higher levels to lend some advice. For instance, how many points into Holy Shield / Sanctuary?

I have read the Avenger guide by Asmo and it was awesome! Along with the guide by Cyrus I've been well on my way but I want to know who still plays an Avenger

Thanks!
mike

 

[Zelator]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

I had one last ladder, he was ok, but slowed down in hell A2. He had a very low % Oath sword.. 233ish max dmg on it. :\

 

[AlexanderM]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

I made one in single player and have been playing him for a few days. My build is shaping up to be 10ish in each resist aura, max conviction, and some in holy shield. Just made it to act 3 (lv25) and it's slow going. Vengeance eats through mana -fast-, I'm sticking with it because I know that -nothing- will be immune to my attacks when I hit hell

 

[lumpor]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

1 point in holy shield. An Avenger treasures skill points, and has no points to spare. Max vengance, resist auras, get a lvl 25 conviction including +skills, 1 holy shield, and meditation/vigor/redemption if you like (though this build needs all the skill points it can get, so think twice before getting them). All remaining points (if any) into salvation. Dream helm and shield are good choices. Ormus may be good as an armor, though there are other options.

I would also like to try an avenger. It feels so nice using conviction to its fullest effect, and I think that except hammerdins, this build has the least immunity problems in the game.

 

[reismj]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

I started doing cow runs till I was 25 and then baal runs to where I am now, I have no problem surviving against baal or his minions. I've got alot of decent drops which put my vengeance damage at around 21x-41x. I got 9 to all resists, 1 in Vengeance and 1 in conv.

When should I jump the boat and start doing NM?

 

[reismj]

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Also, I put 3 points into the prereq's for Redemption before I did more and more research. I regret not saving those 4 (ultimately) points for Salvation / Resists. As it stands right now, I have my 3 resists at lvl 8-9, with 1 in Holy Shield and 1 in Vengeance / Conviction. I'm level 41, so if I don't do any Skill Point reward quests, I'll be able to max out Vengeance and Conviction (with 10 in each Resist) by level 85. That leaves me with 24 points to spend (again assuming that I do every skill point quest). My question is: is Redemption worthwhile enough to keep? Or did I mess up bad?

 

[Sedracus]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

I've currently got a lvl 87 Avenger pally on US-East softcore, and I'm loving it!
My favourite character to be honest.

Yes, you can use every skill point you can get your hands on.
I do consider redemption worth it - a single point in redemption and 1 in every prereq is a must! The ability to get better off the corpses is great. If you ever manage to get out of pots, you just walk back a bit with Redemption on, then kill some more monsters for more pots. I don't have any skillpoints in Sanctuary. I have about 10 or 12 points in each of my resist auras. No points in salvation - I wouldn't have used it anyway. Vigor is always nice for running faster. Especially good when running things like the Countess.
Get conviction to 25 total skill lvl including equip bonuses. Very important.
I maxed Vengeance (ofcourse). Put 1 point in Holy Shield and its prereqs.
As it stands now at lvl 87 with all the skill quests done, I feel I've done all necessary things with my skill points, and I'm putting skill points in holy shock so that I can run people better in normal. The one bad thing about the avenger is the sucky killing speed. You couldn't ask for a better tank though. Steady slow killing, and they can't get you down!

 

[Bjam]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

I love my Avenger. He's off ladder now, but I still dust him off now and then. He's not the fastest killer, it's true, but he's far from slow. When my buddy would join in with his trapper we cleared the screen in a big hurry. It's all about the weapon. An Eth Oath is very good if you are playing legit, but I was swinging an eBotDz that carved a 1 or 2 hit hole in almost everything while providing extraordinary tankability. If I manage to build enough wealth this ladder I want to try a dual Dream variant.

BTW, reismj you are way overdue to move to NM. Act 1 should be easy, but Act 2 will be a struggle if you don't have a decent weapon. A Hand of Blessed Light, Plague Bearer, or a Butcher's Pupil will carry you a very long way. There are a few good affordable rune words like Honor too.

 

[Asmodeous]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

Still play my avenger that the guide was based on. He is up to level 95 and running 6,850 average damage @ 8 frames. (single player no anni/torch) I'm stilly trying to get that last 150 points of damage.

Lots of fun for the odd hell Baal solo run or even the odd cows or pit runs. Love to run him against the Ubers, but thats a bit hard in single player!

 

[reismj]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

Yea I moved on to NM last night, after hitting 48. Did some cow runs and now I'm 54. I need a weapon / armor upgrade bad! My armor is still a piece of crap yellow from a previous game. My weapon is decent (compared to the armor) but I still have problems. I'm done with Act 1 (except for q2345 ). I LOVE my avenger so far. I picked up an amazing 2h sword from a Baal run. It has +6holy fire so I'm thinking I'm going to be makin a new pally to use it . Any suggestions? Atm the skill points are workin fine, 10 resist fire/cold/light, 16 in Conviction, 1 Vengeance

Btw Asmo, you're guide (in supplement to Cyrus's) was a HUGE help. Kudos

 

[Thirteenth]

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I made an all out offense Avenger some time ago (no Holy shield and using a 2handed BotD instead)

Maxed veng, lvl 25 conviction (after +skills), 10 in each resist aura, 1 in useful prayers like santuary and redemption and salvation.

 

[reismj]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

How'd that turn out?

 

[Burn-X]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

Have a Avenger on SP at CLvl 89. He can go pretty much anywhere in the game alone, but at P8, isn't going to get to many places in a hurry. So need to find Griz weapon for the complete set!

Really enjoy Avenger, always welcomed in Baal runs on ladder when I still played. More people should play the build, but nice to see some people here still do.

 

[reismj]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

Because of some extreme generosity by two players who are leaving the game, my Avenger now has an enigma, shako, SS and an atlantean sword. I'm 68 and I don't think I've had this much fun since I cbeta'd for Lineage 2 back 6 years ago!

 

[SnickerSnack]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

I've been thinking of making an avenger ever since I found a rare naga with Cruel,Fool's and Quickness. Once upped, it will have great damage. I was planning on using a spirit pally shield (found a 43% kurast shield too) for the huge resists, fhr and +skills. What shields have you guys used before? I will, of course, read a guide to get an idea on gear.

 

[reismj]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

right now I'm using a Stormclash, soon to be using a SS. If you want, when you make this pally of yours I'll give you the Stormclash, it's decent for pallies (+1 to paladin skills). Lmk

*reismj

 

[SnickerSnack]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

You mean steelclash, right? I've got one, though I think its +edef% is low. My hammerdin used one all the way through nightmare and I gave it away when he switched to spirit. Steelclash is what I'll use until I can upgrade. We're probably on different realms anyway, but thanks.

After reading the Avenger guide, I think I will still go with Spirit.

 

[Bjam]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

Spirit is nice, especially for the price, but HoZ is best by a long shot. A pefect socket would be 15%IAS/15% all res jewel.

 

[SnickerSnack]

Re: Who here still plays an Avenger

That's true, but my first HoZ this ladder will go to my hammerdin who desperately needs more defense and +skills.