Which weps for frenzy axe barb?

[canudig]

Which weps for frenzy axe barb?

Just wondering which weps I should use....currently I am using Last Wish Zerk and Beast Zerk, but I also have Grief Zerk and also a Ebotd Zerk....just wondering which combination will work best with my frenzy barb thx

 

[canudig]

or I can also use Edeath Zerk......but I was thinking of definately using the Last Wish for sure

 

[FrankWest]

Ebotd zerker should be your main hand. If you're set on using the LW, make it your offhand.

 

[Tankmobile]

dont use last wish, edeathz is much better in off-hand unless you're inubertrist :smiley:

 

[Eilo Rytyj]

Even then, EDeath Ettin Axe would be better than both of those for an off-hand Frenzy weapon. Make use of those ethereal 5 socket Ettin Axes people! More damage than Berserker Axe ftw!

 

[FrankWest]

Even then, EDeath Ettin Axe would be better than both of those for an off-hand Frenzy weapon. Make use of those ethereal 5 socket Ettin Axes people! More damage than Berserker Axe ftw!

*nod* Agreed. But I guess if he's set on LW... *shrugs*

But since offhand speed doesn't matter for frenzy, no reason not to go with the cookie monster's suggestion here...

 

[Tankmobile]

you need an extra 20ias according to the german calculator if you use ettin axe for death instead of ba...

 

[FrankWest]

you need an extra 20ias according to the german calculator if you use ettin axe for death instead of ba...

With frenzy it doesn't matter, when it's your offhand weapon.

 

[canudig]

I dunno, the auras make the LW and Beast so appealing.....But as long as I do more damage I guess it doesn't matter, so I guess it's Ebotdz and EDeathz...also I guess I should say this, but my barb really relies on life steal ALOT....A1 monsters can kill me if I don't atk and I am already lvl 86....so should I still go with EBotdz and EDeathz? thx

 

[FrankWest]

Whack something with an ebotdz and you've just leeched all the life you could possibly need.

Although this thing with the A1 monsters does concern me... what's your life/def/res all? That shouldn't be happening. Maybe you need a little PDR?

 

[soul killer]

eDeathz+eBoTDz=OWNAGE

Beastz+LWz is also nice for Ubertristing, that used to be my setup before I made an Uber smiter.
Worked really well.

 

[canudig]

yeah, I think I kinda put a bit too much points into dex and not enough in vitality....256 strength, 155 dex, 299 vitality (1592 life without bo), 67 mana, 67 fire res, 75 cold res, 80 lite res and 75 poison res.....Also dunno if it matters but my other equipment is 1.2k fort, arreats, gores, dracs, highlords, ravenfrost and manald heal......so I should go with ebotdz and edeathz as primary with LWZ and BeastZ to do ubers? thx guys

 

[soul killer]

Just go Beastz and LWz.
Dump the Manald and get another Raven.
Drink a pot if your Mana drops to critical lvls :thumbsup:

CoH > Fort.

 

[Eilo Rytyj]

eDeathz+eBoTDz=OWNAGE

EBotDz+EDeathEttin = more ownage.

I just said like 10 posts back that Ettin>Zerker for an off-hand Death for a Frenzy Barb.

And regarding the IAS... if you have 40% off-weapon IAS from Laying of Hands and Highlord's Wrath then off-hand weapon speed really doesn't matter, since the 40% OIAS will apply to both weapons. Both Ettin and Berserker Axe Deaths will be at the 5.5 FPA breakpoint when paired with EBotDz as main. Therefore, Ettin Axe>>Berserker Axe.


You could even go as far as to say, for a Beast axe, make it in an Ettin Axe as well. It will still hit the fastest Frenzy speed if you're using LoH and/or Highlord's (~20% off-hand IAS or more), but it has higher damage than a Berserker Axe.

So Beast Ettin Axe > Beast Berserker Axe for a main hand Frenzy weapon too.

Gee, we're finding out so much today, aren't we? Berserker Axe isn't always the king of axes.

Just play around with the German weapon speed calc and see for yourself guys.

 

[sequoia]

what makes death so good? last wish has more crushing blow and seems to have more %ED, and doesn't grief have more damage over all?

is it simply because death has a higher deadly strike?

 

[Spankeh]

Time for rumor control:
Im sick of half truths about what effects what etc etc on how fast what effects what weapon speeds.

Here we go...... for the last time.

1. Base weapon speed effects your attack speed. Get this? Good. Thats for both weapons as well.
2. With 2 weapons selected, frenzy averages the difference of these two weapons. Understand? Good. But if you dont, heres an example:

Add a phase blade (-30) and a colossal blade (05) average the difference. and you get base weapon speed, (-12.5)

or

Add an ettin (10) and a zerker axe (00) and u get base weap speed (05)

or

Add a phase blade (-30) and a legend sword (-15) and get (-22.5)

or

Add 2 zerkers (00) and youll get (00)

Once thats done, only IAS% from main hand increases your swing speed.
IAS from of hand is ignored.

3. Death does more damage than LW because, its base damage (etheral) is higher than non eth, even after the might aura.
Add in the Deadly Strike from it, and its a superior weapon, unless your going Lifetap based build, where you want to cast LifeTap... LOL i dont, but most ppl want lifetap to save their a$$es.

Elio: Most ppl go eth-zerkers for both botd and death, because @lvl 32 frenzy, youll only need 42%ias for max 5fpa, whereas ettindeath increases this to 60%ias.
42%ias is possible via LoH, Hilords and a 40/15 jewel in their arreats, whereas this wont be enough with ettin, so they go dual eth-zerks.
Some switch to a nos coil belt to get 65%, but you loose 15%DR from Verdungos or SoE.
Less strength reqs as well from zerks than ettins. (not much though)

Sequoia: Death has crushing blow/ and more deadly strike than grief, so it make a top off hand weapon for ubers.
Grief and Death together do work very well though. But as pb and cb since its base speeds will hit 5fpa. griefz and deathz wont.

 

[soul killer]

As I said before, eBoTDz+eDeathz=OWNAGE.
I have tried eDeathE and Zerker.
Zerker wins because of its speed.

I dont usually post if I dont know.

 

[Tankmobile]

hence i didn't like getting corrected by you eilo before when i knew i was rightt :smiley:
@poster i think this post has answered all yourt q's right?

 

[canudig]

o yeah lol....ebotdz and edeathz for normal killings.....LW and Ebotdz for ubers

 

[inanefedaykin]

Spankeh, ebotdz+edeathz hits the last bp right?

edit: Nevermind, I learned to read.