which sorcress?
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Re: which sorcress?
may I assume you have great equipments? my personal favorite is the bear sorc build, which is a variety of dual dreams built. My bear sorc is level 85 and is hitting 70k dmg, I believe there is a bear sorc guide around if you look for it. It's great because you can kill anything to everything within seconds. one thing I would recommand is to get a blessed aim merc instead of whatever anybody tells you... it helps you hit more often. it's great. and there's virtually nothing that this sorc cannot kill, even without an infinity, granted, it would take longer if you dont have one....
immune to lightning - you have enchant
immune to fire - you have HUGE lightning dmg from dreams
immune to both - your merc will always kill them.
bear sorc is an awesome built... not to mentioned all the fun too.
edit: I forgot to mentioned I can easily take on hell from act 1 to Baal in a 8 people game; so that tells you alot about the power and survivability of this built.
may I assume you have great equipments? my personal favorite is the bear sorc build, which is a variety of dual dreams built. My bear sorc is level 85 and is hitting 70k dmg, I believe there is a bear sorc guide around if you look for it. It's great because you can kill anything to everything within seconds. one thing I would recommand is to get a blessed aim merc instead of whatever anybody tells you... it helps you hit more often. it's great. and there's virtually nothing that this sorc cannot kill, even without an infinity, granted, it would take longer if you dont have one....
immune to lightning - you have enchant
immune to fire - you have HUGE lightning dmg from dreams
immune to both - your merc will always kill them.
bear sorc is an awesome built... not to mentioned all the fun too.
edit: I forgot to mentioned I can easily take on hell from act 1 to Baal in a 8 people game; so that tells you alot about the power and survivability of this built.
someasiandude
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Re: which sorcress?
It really depends on how much your willing to spend, I'd say any sorc build is viable, if your rich enough, I'd concur on the bear sorc, its beast. [no pun intended]
It really depends on how much your willing to spend, I'd say any sorc build is viable, if your rich enough, I'd concur on the bear sorc, its beast. [no pun intended]
Re: which sorcress?
No, actually im not so rich
. I must choose between single ele ( blizz , light,fire) or dual ele (meteorb , light + cold , or something else). I ask which build would be the best with normal items like full tal rash set as I want to be able to go for runes, items , doing rushes on hell, be able to kill alone everything on hell. Is that possible?
No, actually im not so rich
. I must choose between single ele ( blizz , light,fire) or dual ele (meteorb , light + cold , or something else). I ask which build would be the best with normal items like full tal rash set as I want to be able to go for runes, items , doing rushes on hell, be able to kill alone everything on hell. Is that possible?Re: which sorcress?
Finding 2x Bers is not something you just go out and do. Most people here won't see a high rune drop in all the time they play let alone a high rune drop that happens to be a Ber that you can get into your inventory faster than anyone else. I have never personally seen a high rune drop.
Why not solo then? If you can solo most of Hell difficulty already using any Light sorc (which is not hard if you have the right gear), then you don't need an Infinity merc anyway. If you somehow manage to get 2x Bers legit in solo play then you would be better off trading one of them for Jah and making Enigma.
My merc solos pretty much all of the immunes in hell no problem and I don't even have optimal gear. The only thing that makes Emilio cry is Iron Maiden.
Finding 2x Bers is not something you just go out and do. Most people here won't see a high rune drop in all the time they play let alone a high rune drop that happens to be a Ber that you can get into your inventory faster than anyone else. I have never personally seen a high rune drop.
Why not solo then? If you can solo most of Hell difficulty already using any Light sorc (which is not hard if you have the right gear), then you don't need an Infinity merc anyway. If you somehow manage to get 2x Bers legit in solo play then you would be better off trading one of them for Jah and making Enigma.
My merc solos pretty much all of the immunes in hell no problem and I don't even have optimal gear. The only thing that makes Emilio cry is Iron Maiden.
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someasiandude
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Re: which sorcress?
I heard a zod drop in hell andy before, but the highest I ever got off forge was an um. I've never seen anything higher than that anywhere, teardrop*. Personally I like es sorcs, mana doesn't become an issue unless you face mana burn. Don't need the best of gear, monsters don't pwn you in 3 hits and theres enough for you to solo tree with the extra 63pts (assuming lvl 99, and all the skill quests).
I heard a zod drop in hell andy before, but the highest I ever got off forge was an um. I've never seen anything higher than that anywhere, teardrop*. Personally I like es sorcs, mana doesn't become an issue unless you face mana burn. Don't need the best of gear, monsters don't pwn you in 3 hits and theres enough for you to solo tree with the extra 63pts (assuming lvl 99, and all the skill quests).
Re: which sorcress?
Ok as I have full tal rasha set I go for meteorb. I want u to ask why every guide for meteorb is 20 meteor 20 fireball. I thought about something like that:
Light:
static field - 1
telekinesis - 1
teleport - 1
Cold:
Cold bolt - 20
preqs - 4
Frost orb - 20
Cold mastery -about 10
Fire:
Fire bolt - 20
Fire ball - 20
meteor - 0 (that means we dont waste 3 points in preqs)
Fire mastery - about 10
Is that good? Or I should stick to forum guides? Or maybe you have better guide. And how should I add stat points.
Ok as I have full tal rasha set I go for meteorb. I want u to ask why every guide for meteorb is 20 meteor 20 fireball. I thought about something like that:
Light:
static field - 1
telekinesis - 1
teleport - 1
Cold:
Cold bolt - 20
preqs - 4
Frost orb - 20
Cold mastery -about 10
Fire:
Fire bolt - 20
Fire ball - 20
meteor - 0 (that means we dont waste 3 points in preqs)
Fire mastery - about 10
Is that good? Or I should stick to forum guides? Or maybe you have better guide. And how should I add stat points.
Re: which sorcress?
you're looking for this: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254070
Soulburner
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Re: which sorcress?
Meteor is maxed to crank up Fireball damage.
Meteor is maxed to crank up Fireball damage.
Soulburner
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Re: which sorcress?
You get them BOTH. They BOTH synergize Fireball. You can choose to do only one, but you won't reach those 10,000 damage Fireballs.
You get them BOTH. They BOTH synergize Fireball. You can choose to do only one, but you won't reach those 10,000 damage Fireballs.
TimmyMallet
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Re: which sorcress?
Interesting reading i went with the pure orb tele build in the forums for me starting out but finding hell meph real hard.
Looking now to build another sorc for rushing mainly yet finding it hard to decide also on what way to go.
Looking for reasoning behind the pure light sorc idea isnt she as weak as other 1 spell class sorc for hell?
Interesting reading i went with the pure orb tele build in the forums for me starting out but finding hell meph real hard.
Looking now to build another sorc for rushing mainly yet finding it hard to decide also on what way to go.
Looking for reasoning behind the pure light sorc idea isnt she as weak as other 1 spell class sorc for hell?
Soulburner
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Re: which sorcress?
You don't understand...
As I already said, they BOTH synergize Fireball. You don't only get the boost once, it gets boosted by them both. Most people don't use Meteor - they just use it to crank up Fireball damage.
Go find a skill calculator and see for yourself.
You don't understand...
As I already said, they BOTH synergize Fireball. You don't only get the boost once, it gets boosted by them both. Most people don't use Meteor - they just use it to crank up Fireball damage.
Go find a skill calculator and see for yourself.
Re: which sorcress?
IMO cold bolt does very little to help (its a 2% synergy). So i would leave it at 1 point. Also, you can only break a monster's cold immunity so far. 20 points seems excessive. put a few points there, and with a with plus to skills it will be high enough to get the job done.
Rest should go into meteor and fireball, then finally into firebolt. And of course as many as you can into firemastery.
I guess im saying stick to the cookie cutter builds if you want real killing speed and a high powered sorc.
IMO cold bolt does very little to help (its a 2% synergy). So i would leave it at 1 point. Also, you can only break a monster's cold immunity so far. 20 points seems excessive. put a few points there, and with a with plus to skills it will be high enough to get the job done.
Rest should go into meteor and fireball, then finally into firebolt. And of course as many as you can into firemastery.
I guess im saying stick to the cookie cutter builds if you want real killing speed and a high powered sorc.
Re: which sorcress?
Soulburner I understood very well but I just saw that in more guides there is only 1 point in firebolt and there are 20 in meteor. Thats why I just told to replace that and save 3 points from prereqs for meteor. I didn't knew that I am supposed to max both meteor and firebolt as I was looking at for example Saja's build. So could you tell me how should I best place 110 points in my meteorb sorc? And stat points ( I know dex and energy 0, rest in vit , but how much in str exactly?). Thanks all for replies.
Soulburner I understood very well but I just saw that in more guides there is only 1 point in firebolt and there are 20 in meteor. Thats why I just told to replace that and save 3 points from prereqs for meteor. I didn't knew that I am supposed to max both meteor and firebolt as I was looking at for example Saja's build. So could you tell me how should I best place 110 points in my meteorb sorc? And stat points ( I know dex and energy 0, rest in vit , but how much in str exactly?). Thanks all for replies.
Soulburner
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Re: which sorcress?
Ice Bolt may only give 2% per point, but after 20 points that's 40% - which is significant since FO hits many times where a Fireball only hits once. I'm sure it adds up, but no one seems to have tried it.
I don't see why taking a few from Firebolt and Meteor to synergize FO would be a bad idea. People only look at the hard numbers - yeah it says 2%, but FO works a lot differently than a one time blast from a Fireball. Ever notice how when you put points into it, it's damage doesn't increase by a lot (on your skills screen) but its killing power seems to get exponentially better in actual use?
Ice Bolt may only give 2% per point, but after 20 points that's 40% - which is significant since FO hits many times where a Fireball only hits once. I'm sure it adds up, but no one seems to have tried it.
I don't see why taking a few from Firebolt and Meteor to synergize FO would be a bad idea. People only look at the hard numbers - yeah it says 2%, but FO works a lot differently than a one time blast from a Fireball. Ever notice how when you put points into it, it's damage doesn't increase by a lot (on your skills screen) but its killing power seems to get exponentially better in actual use?