Which skills shall i choose?

[bassen]

Which skills shall i choose?

Okey this thread looks by the name alike the one over but my situation is very diffrent.

I have played my twinked bowazon through normal now, she is chlvl 48
The skills I have already given her are

Bow & Crossboskills:
1 Magic Arrow
1 Cold Arrow
1 Ice Arrow
1 Freezing Arrow


Passive and Magic (1 each):
1 Inner Sight
1 Critical Strike
1 Dodge
1 Slow Missiles
1 Avoid
1 Penetrate
1 Decoy
1 Evade
1 Valkyrie
1 Pierce

Skill point I havent used yet = 37
So were shall I put them?
This is also the reason I twinked her, cause I wanted to wait until I placed. I have runned the game in /players8

I also need tip how much STR/DEX/VIT I shall place
Stats:
STR 52
DEX 133
VIT 120
ENG 15 (base, no points here)

Equipment are now:
Magewrath
Naj's Circlet
Sparkling Mail
Sigons Gage & Wrap (10% life steal)
Sanders Rip Rap
Eye of Etlich
2 rings given a bit resist life steal and dext.

I'm waiting for a few items from Calladors giveaway too
Lycaners Aim and Hellrack (the unique Crossbow with a lot of EMD)

So how shall I place the skills and stats from now?
How much max STR shall I place? How much HP do I need?

//Bassen

 

[stfrn]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

Are you aiming for elemental damage or physical? Depending on what you want to do, you'll either want 20strafe/~10multishot or 20freezing arrow or... maybe a fire skill.

If you go for physical damage, you might want to max Dex, otherwise more vit is always good.

 

[bassen]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

I was thinkin to use the same merc as I used for my druid, with twink him with Insight/Treachery and Tals Crest (got 2 so I'm gonna wear one to)
He will use much mush physical damage, so I better adept in the elemental damage.
so I maybe shall focus on Freezing Arrows then. But I've read that every bowazon use Valkyrie for nice tank, do I need that to? With my druid I used the Bear with 5k hp, how much can I get my Valkyrie to, in hp? Since the Freezing aroow takes a lot of mana maybe I shall out into the synergies first?

Then my skill locations would be

Bow & Crossboskills:
1 Magic Arrow
20 Cold Arrow
20 Ice Arrow
20 Freezing Arrow
(tot 61)

Passive and Magic (1 each):
1 Inner Sight
1 Critical Strike
1 Dodge
1 Slow Missiles
1 Avoid
1 Penetrate
1 Decoy
1 Evade
20 Valkyrie
1 Pierce
(tot 29)

This means I have used 90 Skillpoints of 110. The last 20's maybe I shall split up between Decoy and or put them into Fire Arrow?

 

[zarfen]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

I wouldn't calculate my build with 110 skill points, or do you hope to reach level 99 with a bowazon anytime soon? :grin:

a level 1 fa with synergies is not nearly as godo as a level 20 FA with less synergies, and since you'll be usign an insight merc, stick to maxign FA first, I would also not spend all the points in FA, since I ahte relying on my mercenary to deal with immunes, I'd probably split some of the FA synergies into a fire arrow.
if you find yourself short of points, don't go 20 in valk, try to aim for slvl 17, including +skills from your gear.

Oh, and by the way, I almost missed it, don't max ice arrow at all, it's only adding to FA's freesing time, not to damage, so don't put mroe than 1 pt in it and go for a fire arrow instead.

 

[bassen]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

So I maybe shouldn't touch the Passice and Magic skill at all? +1 in each might be enough (well I have already 1 in each but not put any more)

I maybe should place the skills like this:

Bow & Crossboskills:
20 Cold Arrow (pre)
1 Ice Arrow
20 Freezing Arrow
1 Magic Arrow (pre)
1-20 Fire Arrow (if I want directly effect or DOA, I'll chose one of them "pre or max")
1-20 Exploding Arrow (if I want directly effect or DOA, I'll chose one of them "pre or max")
20 Immolating Arrow

Which one should I go for to synergy my Imo Arrow (I'll only chose one)
Now I have spended (according to this)

10 (1 in each Passive and magic)
41 For Cold damage
42 For fire damage
= 93 skills and I'm done, the rest I'll place on Valkyrie and/or Penetrate

 

[bassen]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

I'll build them equal so I'll put a skill up to Immo arrow to

edit again: lol - I pushed edit -.-

 

[slayer37]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

Be aware though that Immo has delay (~1sec) so you cannot spam it like FA. The delay seems like bearable but you'll see what I mean when you reach Hell and meet CIs who rape your merc in a sec and come after you while you wait for the delay after every shot. Immo is viable IMO if you have great tanks (merc + max valk + decoy) to hold the monsters in place while they fry.

 

[bassen]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

so maxing fire and explode is better then ^^ ?. I need a big tank anyway, my bear had almost 6k hp and 6k+dmg with spirit.

I'm a person who likes to max out skills i put points into =P unless the magic-tree (well it was hard to put 1 in each but i know it was worth it ^^)

 

[slayer37]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

My magezon looks like something like this:
20 - FA
20 - CA (synergy)
20 - EA
20 - Fire Arrow (synergy)
rest into Valk

Looking at EA vs IA as back-up skill, you'll notice that IA packs twice the damage as EA per shot. The thing is you could fire at least 2 EAs (depends on your speed ofc) in the span of waiting for Immo's delay to end.

Edit: Get razortail as belt! I also have 1 only in Pierce but +skills + razortail gets me 100% chance.

 

[Dreadful]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

IIRC EA adds said amount onto your damage then splits it between fire and phyiscal, so if you do say 500 - 1000 damage (low i know but an example) with a lvl 1 EA you'll do 502 - 1006 damage (251 - 503 fire/phyiscal) which means when fighting a Cold immune and physical immune you'll still be able to get alot of fire damage in. maxing EA and FA will only yeild an extra 309.6 - 357.6 ( so about 155 - 178 fire/physical damage(not inculding +skill items)) not worth spending an extra 38 points for such little damage in IMO

 

[slayer37]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

IIRC EA adds said amount onto your damage then splits it between fire and phyiscal, so if you do say 500 - 1000 damage (low i know but an example) with a lvl 1 EA you'll do 502 - 1006 damage (251 - 503 fire/phyiscal) which means when fighting a Cold immune and physical immune you'll still be able to get alot of fire damage in. maxing EA and FA will only yeild an extra 309.6 - 357.6 ( so about 155 - 178 fire/physical damage(not inculding +skill items)) not worth spending an extra 38 points for such little damage in IMO

I think you are talking about Fire Arrow. Fire Arrow adds fire damage and AR% over your normal attack and converts a certain % of your physical damage into fire damage. EA adds splash fire damage to your attack.

Let's say we have +10 to all skills and 20 FireA/EA. Also, bow you have deals 100 average physical damage for simplicity in calculation.
slvl30 EA - 880-1023 fire (splash) + 100 physical
slvl30 FireA - 663-754 fire + 61 fire (61% physical converted) + 39 physical damage.

My magezon deals with CI mobs using EA and for tough single ones FireA.

 

[bassen]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

I think you are talking about Fire Arrow. Fire Arrow adds fire damage and AR% over your normal attack and converts a certain % of your physical damage into fire damage. EA adds splash fire damage to your attack.

Let's say we have +10 to all skills and 20 FireA/EA. Also, bow you have deals 100 average physical damage for simplicity in calculation.
slvl30 EA - 880-1023 fire (splash) + 100 physical
slvl30 FireA - 663-754 fire + 61 fire (61% physical converted) + 39 physical damage.

My magezon deals with CI mobs using EA and for tough single ones FireA.

I'll go for a pure elemtalzon - I was given Hellrack from Calladors giveaway and I soon will get a stash-file giving me additional 100+ CD

But I will have big problems with those enemies who are

PI+CI+FI if there are any? they can't be tripple immuns, can they?

 

[slayer37]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

PI+CI+FI if there are any? They can't be triple immune, can they?

I have never seen one with 3 immunities but my magezon encountered a boss who is CI/FI and stoneskin. I think he was also cursed and/or extra strong. He teared valk and merc in seconds while I watched helplessly. I had to S&E for a reroll. :grin:

 

[bassen]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

I have never seen one with 3 immunities but my magezon encountered a boss who is CI/FI and stoneskin. I think he was also cursed and/or extra strong. He teared valk and merc in seconds while I watched helplessly. I had to S&E for a reroll. :grin:

hehe.

Btw how good is the gear of mavina? I soon have 3, gauntlet, belt and armor (soon maybe)

 

[Dreadful]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

PI+CI+FI if there are any? they can't be tripple immuns, can they?

Well a dark shape can be Cold, Fire, Lighting and Physical immune if he spawns with Magic resistant, Fire enchanted and Lighting enchanted. so yeah possible, 100% physical, 120% cold and 115% Fire and Lighting... but i think the cold is the only unbreakable one there

 

[Nimbostratus]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

I'm pretty sure the game caps monsters at having 3 immunities. After it gets 3, it ignores any other resistance additions.

 

[Ugla]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

Monsters cannot have more than two immunities. Otherwise, every other OK boss would be pretty much invincible

 

[bassen]

Re: Which skills shall i choose?

Monsters cannot have more than two immunities. Otherwise, every other OK boss would be pretty much invincible

guess you right =P