which builds benefit the most from enigma?

[zticazzy]

tonight i was messing around in the flayer dungeon on p1 with my ww barb and a jah dropped. my first jah ever, i couldn't believe it! :jig: i already have a ber (aka my first ber ever) obtained by heavy LKing, so everyone knows what this means: it's enigma time!
unfortunately i don't have any good char to put it on (my barb build is complete, and my sorc... oh well), so i was wondering: which build should i create in order to enjoy my enigma the most?
i'm also considering putting the runes in a 466def dusk shroud (no %ED), is it a good idea or i'd be better to look for a superior armor with 3 sockets and %ED?

 

[Syxalis]

Off the top of my head? Singer/Windy/most necros/Hammerdin. No idea as to what is "best". That's relative, I'd think.

 

[Gripphon]

If I have to choose char who profits most from Enigma, then I choose:
Pit berserker barb - thanks to enigma you can make most efficient magicfinder character in diablo world.

Also all already mentioned builds and many others.

 

[japanzaman]

I guess the short answer is any build that you want to utilize as a runner, either for MF or leveling purposes. Enigma isn't always the best performance option in the sense that some melee builds do better with Fortitude or Chains of Honor, but when you consider the speed of play that Enigma opens up, that almost certainly overrides any performance gains, with the possible exception of an ubertristram oriented build.

Also, if you want to duel, you will almost certaintly want this for a non sorc character.

 

[CorruptedMollusk]

I've played for a long time, and never made an Enigma. That is about to change as I finally am making a poison necro, which is the first build I've made where Engima is the answer to the question "Best armor for the build" I don't have another character where that is true. Fort/CoH/other are usually better for the types of characters I play. Maybe I don't value teleport as highly as many.

CM

 

[TheNix]

I made my first Enigma earlier this year. I put it on a Pit Berserker and died three times in 20 minutes, put it back in my stash and don't intend to use it again any time soon.

 

[japanzaman]

I made my first Enigma earlier this year. I put it on a Pit Berserker and died three times in 20 minutes, put it back in my stash and don't intend to use it again any time soon.

Those pit zerkers require some pretty specific gear setups and ridiculously high reaction times to shine. More practice is probably all you needed.

 

[TheNix]

With my poor eyesight and slow reaction times it was more like a slow decent into madness and I got so motion sick I almost threw up.

 

[frozzzen]

I read this:

I made my first Enigma earlier this year. I put it on a Pit Berserker and died three times in 20 minutes, put it back in my stash and don't intend to use it again any time soon.

As this:

I bought my first bike earlier this year. Went out on street and fell three times in 20 minutes, put it back in my garage and don't intend to use it again any time soon.

:badteeth:

That being said I dislike that build myself. It's too attention heavy and unfun for me personally and requires too much practice. Just because we don't like bikes doesn't mean they aren't good though.


As for topic, make one in breast plate (lowest str req) or light plate (very low str req + looks nicer on characters). Defense is useless attribute in d2 so don't bother with elite bases imo.
As for builds, well, any non sorc build will greatly improve with enigma. It makes niceish builds into endgame powerhouses and greatly increases your killspeed/time ratio. It's recommended (but not 100% needed) for all builds.

 

[naranjadita]

Personally, I wouldn't put an Eni on a pve novamancer, Bramble looks so much better.
Enigma can be used on any non-sorc char, especially on a single-element damage dealers questing(so that you could skip the problem locations) but I think that a Singer is the best - you can tele into a crowd without being torn apart by angry monsters (mass stun). Also, teleing with descent speed is pleasant, and barb has the same FCR breakpoints as sorc.

 

[jeffy]

light plate (very low str req + looks nicer on characters).

Most important advice in this thread. Do not make the breastplate mistake!

Defense is useless attribute in d2 so don't bother with elite bases imo.

I'd argue that it matters somewhat for certain builds that have +%def modifiers. like ww barb or hammerdin if the merc has the defiance aura stick. And at the end of the day, the only builds that will make use of the base strength from non-elite enigma are casters without spirit or hammerdins (but hammerdins will make use of the +def from elite).

 

[Korlic]

I made a Druid summoner to see if it could be done. The main reason I would even bother was and still is, Enigma. It is just an awesome amor for summoners, and while a Necro can do well without Enigma, it is essential if you go the summoning route with a druid. That and Reapers on my merc was what I used to kill PIs, and it worked fine, unless they were all over the place in which case I just teled away

 

[zticazzy]

so the best way to go is creating a caster or a summoner build, right? i'll keep that in mind. the single-element thing seems interesting too, maybe a LFzon or a poisonmancer are good options (but, as naranjadita said, Bramble is probably better for him). moreover, i've never created an hammerdin and this char could definitely make a good use of tele.

regarding the armor choice: you're telling me that a dusk shroud isn't a good enough compromise between str reqs and def? what about mage plates? i've seen that this option is popular too.

 

[Korlic]

A tele barb also benefits from Enigma, but if you ask me I would say summoners benefit the most over all. Thats not to say other chars dont benefit as well, but they usually have good/great alternatives. It could be Fortitude, Vipermagi or as you correctly mentioned Bramble.

 

[thefranklin]

I would answer this question by saying:

Enigma benefits Sorcs and Were-characters the least. Everyone else gets huge benefits. 2 skills, strength, frw, and mf on an armor is still pretty swell for characters that don't benefit from the teleport a whole lot.

 

[pharphis]

slightly OT: bramble doesn't do enough for novamancers.. the positioning and overall speed enhancement from enigma is far better than some % poison skill dmg. Merc should pop the first corpse, anyway, only aided by nova. Then CE for life

 

[zticazzy]

btw i've made the enigma in a non-superior mageplate i've found today: 261 base def, the highest possible, and perfect +775 roll. :alright:
thanks everyone for the suggestions!

 

[japanzaman]

I guess how you want to prioritize stat points is up to you, but what you are essentially doing is swapping 150 def for 50~75 life (after CtA and other bonuses are applied). If you have some charms that can make up the str difference, I guess it's not that big of a deal, though.