Which build is the best caster killer?BvC, Ghost, or WW/Trapsin? d

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Uncle_Mike

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And please, don't make up stupid assumptions like unless you are me or have prof of being a professional psychiatrist since you only make yourself look like a fool, trying to analyze a person through mere words. If you could at least observe me while I read and type, you could say a word. But to be able to make up such claims, you would need to know my past, my personality, my thoughts and also have some serious knowledge about the human mind.
Do not derail another topic with personal ramblings please :thumbsup:

This is the PvP forum and such comments are not needed.

Also, there is no need to get personal both of you :smiley:



 

Arbedark

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And please, don't make up stupid assumptions like unless you are me or have prof of being a professional psychiatrist since you only make yourself look like a fool, trying to analyze a person through mere words. If you could at least observe me while I read and type, you could say a word. But to be able to make up such claims, you would need to know my past, my personality, my thoughts and also have some serious knowledge about the human mind.
Shame that I've actively taken courses in human psychology, continue to do so, and my degree would theoretically allow me to qualify for a graduate membership in the British Psychology Society and would confer a GBR (Graduate Basis for Registration), then?

Ce Olba said:
A creative way of wasting time? If you haven't proved that a sin always block 6 hits out of 10, then why do you waste your time insisting that it adds an effective 60% life? It sometimes does add just that, sometimes less, sometimes more. That's why it's so fragile, it's a chance.
Simply, because you fail to understand how probability and expected values work.

And I'm not in the mood for giving a lecture on Normal distribution curves and other statistical analyses.

Final question, why do you calculate chance to hit if you're ignoring chance to block? They're both chances, and if you're considering that chance to hit can be ignored as it doesnt "always" work, then chance to hit should be ignored too. And you're barb will "never" hit...



 

Ce Olba

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Shame that I've actively taken courses in human psychology, continue to do so, and my degree would theoretically allow me to qualify for a graduate membership in the British Psychology Society and would confer a GBR (Graduate Basis for Registration), then?
I did not ask for stupidities as that, I asked for something serious to back up your saying that I'm something when you don't know a thing about me.

Simply, because you fail to understand how probability and expected values work.

And I'm not in the mood for giving a lecture on Normal distribution curves and other statistical analyses.
If probability was exact, then it would be valid information, but it's not exact, and that's why it's in the probability section. Of course, if you feel like trusting it 100%, you can use your 1.6 modifier to gain yourself another good couple thousands of life, just remember that it's not going to be like that always.

Final question, why do you calculate chance to hit if you're ignoring chance to block? They're both chances, and if you're considering that chance to hit can be ignored as it doesnt "always" work, then chance to hit should be ignored too. And you're barb will "never" hit...
Sorry, I do use CtB as a modifier to CtH. Heck, if I bother, I might even use CtB as a modifier for damage at times. However, rarely do I bother with that since it's not exact, it's merely the worst case scenario.



 

Arbedark

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Ce Olba said:
Sorry, I do use CtB as a modifier to CtH. Heck, if I bother, I might even use CtB as a modifier for damage at times. However, rarely do I bother with that since it's not exact, it's merely the worst case scenario.
Yes, and then you go on and generalise to such degrees that it would take "x number of whirls" to kill y class...The same thing that sin players do when talking about an effective increase in life.

Anyway, this has deteriorated into another "Ce Olba can't handle that Ghost > BvC in certain situations" thread.

And finally, at the OP, Ghost > BvC for CASTER killing.
 

Uncle_Mike

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Yes, and then you go on and generalise to such degrees that it would take "x number of whirls" to kill y class...The same thing that sin players do when talking about an effective increase in life.

Anyway, this has deteriorated into another "Ce Olba can't handle that Ghost > BvC in certain situations" thread.

And finally, at the OP, Ghost > BvC for CASTER killing.
Again, this thread is to be ON TOPIC. From now on OT posts will be deleted rather than edited :wink:

@below - it is OnT imo :smiley:



 

Dennis_KoreanGuy

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Olba's not really "ignoring" clawblock here, I think he's just peeved that some sin users hype it up. Though I do think it sure deserves a *1.6 life modifier in calculations.

I agree with arbe, I'd rather be a ghost against casters.

but to starter, I would go with bvc, not only is it more versatile against melees but its easier to control.

sorry for ot mike, but trust me, fairies exist. and no,not the tooth fairy, they're for stupid babies to believe in. the REAL deal fairies are the wish faries, they exist

see what you do is you wait for 11:11 right, and you make a wish
my girlfriend taught me it
and about 1/111th of the time it seriously works
when the wish fairy isnt too busy with others

ugh, now I've told you guys so she's gonna be more busy because all of you will start wishing.. >.<
 

Camden

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I hardly see how a wwsin is harder to control when locking/ww with mindblast is one of the easiest things to do =\
 

Dennis_KoreanGuy

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I hardly see how a wwsin is harder to control when locking/ww with mindblast is one of the easiest things to do =\
wwsin = lock mb tele ww
ghost / hybrid = throw traps in the mix, don't even know how one would order its moves..

and I said bvc's easier to control, or master. leap tele ww?



 

Ce Olba

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Yes, and then you go on and generalise to such degrees that it would take "x number of whirls" to kill y class...The same thing that sin players do when talking about an effective increase in life.
Sorry, I'm not like that. I rarely if ever do something like that. I can remember 1 case where I used such a way and that with Kaython's WWsin vs. BvC topic.

Anyway, this has deteriorated into another "Ce Olba can't handle that Ghost > BvC in certain situations" thread.
Please, don't talk about stupidities like "Olba cannot handle X". Say so after you've known me and researched my actions, behaviour and mind for a couple of years. Before that, I ask you to shut the **** up.

I somehow don't see any person making a character plainly for killing casters, specially not if public games are taken into account.



 

Uncle_Mike

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That post had you receive a warning...

Seems the best caster killer will have to be determined in-game as this thread gets closed for excessive OT and insults...

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