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which armor should my merc use?

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  1. lior

    lior Diabloii.Net Member

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    which armor should my merc use?

    act2 merc def.
    An upgraded shaft or a stone?
    If a stone, then what minimun defense should the stone be?
    Thanks
     
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    SuggestiveName Diabloii.Net Member

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    Both should work fine. Go for the most def you can afford/roll.
     
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    lior Diabloii.Net Member

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    I want to know which would be better, should I get a shaft or concentrate on a stone.
     
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    SuggestiveName Diabloii.Net Member

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    If it were me, I would be making a Duress. If you have a nice 4os armor I would go for stone, unless you particularly like DR. I always used shaft as an intermediate armor, I never upp'd it.
     
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    Hetchman Diabloii.Net Member

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    Stone is good. Not cheap, but not real expensive either. Wait for a 4 socket ethereal armor with good defense. I made mine in an ethereal hellforge plate (905 base defense IIRC) and got myself a 3200+ Defense stone. (rolled 1% away from perfect on enhanced defense)

    That particular merc, coupled with his obedience and his Tal's hat NEVER dies. like ever. period.

    Do lots of pit runs for the armor, and hope like hell on your forges and countess runs. Stone isn't terribly hard to pull off. Shael Um Pul Lum.

    Nothing terribly expensive in there.
     
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    lior Diabloii.Net Member

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    obedience? forges ?
    I just sold an eth sacred with a base of 1018 :cool:
    Anyway, going with a 3000+ stone would be better then a shaft you say?
    And why tal hat and not a gaze?
     
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    MyCompSucks Diabloii.Net Member

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    tal hat has more leech

    i'd say that about hte stone

    my merc uses Fort, Andys, Eth Insight and only dies to IM, but that a bit expensive

    If he wasn't using the fort, i'd use a stone, but the wep and helm can be found cheap
     
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    lior Diabloii.Net Member

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    Why use a fortitude, what does it give?
    And why use insight? I currently use cresent moon which is very cheap also.
    About tal helm, isn't it worth 2% less life leech for 20%DR?
     
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    MyCompSucks Diabloii.Net Member

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    fort give res, def, enhanced damage and more stuff

    i use insight because it is my hammerdins merc and provides meditation and i almost never go below 600 mana (have like 620) even when spammign hammers/tele

    if you don't need med i'd say go obedience or CM, the static is nice
    Obedience is: Hel + Ko + Thul + Eth + Fal, even less than the CM
    also, if you can try to make it in an eth polearm or make the armor in an eth armor
     
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    lior Diabloii.Net Member

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    Where can I see fort stats? I checked several sites and they separate what it gives to weapons and what it gives to armor, and where they state what it gives to armor, there isn't much.
    p.s. I currently have a cresent moon, in an eth colossus volgue, 206ed, that give me 76-755.
    Should I try and get an eth cryptic axe and go with obed?
     
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    MyCompSucks Diabloii.Net Member

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    it give all those stats to the armor, trust me, i can post an ss of it later.

    i personally like both, so if the CM is working for you, keep it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it

    Cresent Moon:
    10% Chance To Cast Level 17 Chain Lightning On Striking
    7% Chance To Cast Level 13 Static Field On Striking
    +20% Increased Attack Speed
    +180-220% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    Ignore Target's Defense
    -35% To Enemy Lightning Resistance
    25% Chance of Open Wounds
    +9-11 Magic Absorb (varies)
    +2 To Mana After Each Kill
    Level 18 Summon Spirit Wolf (30 Charges)

    Obed:
    30% Chance To Cast Level 21 Enchant When You Kill An Enemy
    40% Faster Hit Recovery
    +370% Enhanced Damage
    -25% Target Defense
    Adds 3-14 Cold Damage
    -25% To Enemy Fire Resistance
    40% Chance of Crushing Blow
    +200-300 Defense (varies)
    +10 To Strength
    +10 To Dexterity
    All Resistances +20-30 (varies)
    Requirements -20%


    imo, they seem to be sort similar. It looks like Obed will hit a little less, but hit harder and the CM will hit more (ITD) do less but can static the guy.

    Still, what kinda char is the merc for?
     
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    franzjosef Diabloii.Net Member

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    ..and I thought I was hot stuff for making Stone in an ethereal loricated mail suit. Oh well, I'll have to settle for my 'piddling' 2759 defense...

    I suppose Tals vs Andys is a matter of taste, unless your merc is hurting on strength to pick up that big Bonehew or Reapers erc. Also a question of level, since Andys is a clvl 83 hat. Another option, especially for boss runners, is Guillaume's Face from the Orphan's Call set. No leech but 35% CB (we did settle that CB works on mercs?). Socket it with an Amn and let your big boy tank.
     
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    it does work iirc, on some chars, i have those in the stash for boss killings and stuff.
    yea, i forgot about the lvl req for andys, my merc needed that to hold his eth cv insight. If you need str, you can always socket armors/helms with FALs or use the Stone r/w for 15 to str
     
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    lior Diabloii.Net Member

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    My merc is for a sorc.
    So I'll keep my CM, but if I can get my hands on a forti, should I?
    And between tal's andy's and gaze?
     
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    if you don't need the str, you probally dont need an andy's
    What are the merc res, if not maxed used Tals over gaze otherwise gaze (why don't these show up on mercs, they look awesome)

    fyi, best merc wep for a sorc is an infinity polearm, with is ber +mal+ber ist, so..... I'd say go for the the fort or stone
     
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    lior Diabloii.Net Member

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    infinity? not doom?
     
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    I prefer Gaze for most of my char mercs. Definitely helps them survive better than Andy's/Tal's (perf 8-20 that is). I usually use Andy on my bowzon/barb merc, since it improves merc's might aura, giving me more damage as well :drool: .

    Also you guys forgot Crown of Ages. Supersweet helm for merc, but also expensive.
     
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    SirDooFuss Diabloii.Net Member

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    It's the AURA!!! Can you think of a better aura for a sorc than conviction???

    Also, when it comes to checking runeword stats I sometimes use ebay. Just search "fortitude uswest" or some such. They almost always have pics that show full stats. (no, I have never bought a virtual item on ebay:lol: )
     
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    my sorcs merc uses
    infinity (eth tresher for ias)
    eth andariel visage 'jewel ias / 26% fire res'
    eth gladiators bane 'jewel ias / 14 res all'

    this way he got:
    a super aura
    40% crushing blow
    50% ias
    30% fhr
    cannot be frozen
    19 magic damage reduce (great vs blaze or any damage/frame attack)
    75 / 75 / 75 / 85 res all
    -50% poison length
     
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    i suggest ETH stone :) defense makes a difference
     

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