which armor should my merc use?

lior

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which armor should my merc use?

act2 merc def.
An upgraded shaft or a stone?
If a stone, then what minimun defense should the stone be?
Thanks
 

lior

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SuggestiveName said:
Both should work fine. Go for the most def you can afford/roll.
I want to know which would be better, should I get a shaft or concentrate on a stone.
 

SuggestiveName

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lior said:
I want to know which would be better, should I get a shaft or concentrate on a stone.
If it were me, I would be making a Duress. If you have a nice 4os armor I would go for stone, unless you particularly like DR. I always used shaft as an intermediate armor, I never upp'd it.
 

Hetchman

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Stone is good. Not cheap, but not real expensive either. Wait for a 4 socket ethereal armor with good defense. I made mine in an ethereal hellforge plate (905 base defense IIRC) and got myself a 3200+ Defense stone. (rolled 1% away from perfect on enhanced defense)

That particular merc, coupled with his obedience and his Tal's hat NEVER dies. like ever. period.

Do lots of pit runs for the armor, and hope like hell on your forges and countess runs. Stone isn't terribly hard to pull off. Shael Um Pul Lum.

Nothing terribly expensive in there.
 

lior

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Hetchman said:
Stone is good. Not cheap, but not real expensive either. Wait for a 4 socket ethereal armor with good defense. I made mine in an ethereal hellforge plate (905 base defense IIRC) and got myself a 3200+ Defense stone. (rolled 1% away from perfect on enhanced defense)

That particular merc, coupled with his obedience and his Tal's hat NEVER dies. like ever. period.

Do lots of pit runs for the armor, and hope like hell on your forges and countess runs. Stone isn't terribly hard to pull off. Shael Um Pul Lum.

Nothing terribly expensive in there.
obedience? forges ?
I just sold an eth sacred with a base of 1018 :cool:
Anyway, going with a 3000+ stone would be better then a shaft you say?
And why tal hat and not a gaze?
 

MyCompSucks

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lior said:
obedience? forges ?
I just sold an eth sacred with a base of 1018 :cool:
Anyway, going with a 3000+ stone would be better then a shaft you say?
And why tal hat and not a gaze?
tal hat has more leech

i'd say that about hte stone

my merc uses Fort, Andys, Eth Insight and only dies to IM, but that a bit expensive

If he wasn't using the fort, i'd use a stone, but the wep and helm can be found cheap
 

lior

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MyCompSucks said:
tal hat has more leech

i'd say that about hte stone

my merc uses Fort, Andys, Eth Insight and only dies to IM, but that a bit expensive

If he wasn't using the fort, i'd use a stone, but the wep and helm can be found cheap
Why use a fortitude, what does it give?
And why use insight? I currently use cresent moon which is very cheap also.
About tal helm, isn't it worth 2% less life leech for 20%DR?
 

MyCompSucks

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lior said:
Why use a fortitude, what does it give?
And why use insight? I currently use cresent moon which is very cheap also.
fort give res, def, enhanced damage and more stuff

i use insight because it is my hammerdins merc and provides meditation and i almost never go below 600 mana (have like 620) even when spammign hammers/tele

if you don't need med i'd say go obedience or CM, the static is nice
Obedience is: Hel + Ko + Thul + Eth + Fal, even less than the CM
also, if you can try to make it in an eth polearm or make the armor in an eth armor
 

lior

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MyCompSucks said:
fort give res, def, enhanced damage and more stuff

i use insight because it is my hammerdins merc and provides meditation and i almost never go below 600 mana (have like 620) even when spammign hammers/tele

if you don't need med i'd say go obedience or CM, the static is nice
Obedience is: Hel + Ko + Thul + Eth + Fal, even less than the CM
also, if you can try to make it in an eth polearm or make the armor in an eth armor
Where can I see fort stats? I checked several sites and they separate what it gives to weapons and what it gives to armor, and where they state what it gives to armor, there isn't much.
p.s. I currently have a cresent moon, in an eth colossus volgue, 206ed, that give me 76-755.
Should I try and get an eth cryptic axe and go with obed?
 

MyCompSucks

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it give all those stats to the armor, trust me, i can post an ss of it later.

i personally like both, so if the CM is working for you, keep it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Cresent Moon:
10% Chance To Cast Level 17 Chain Lightning On Striking
7% Chance To Cast Level 13 Static Field On Striking
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+180-220% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
-35% To Enemy Lightning Resistance
25% Chance of Open Wounds
+9-11 Magic Absorb (varies)
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
Level 18 Summon Spirit Wolf (30 Charges)

Obed:
30% Chance To Cast Level 21 Enchant When You Kill An Enemy
40% Faster Hit Recovery
+370% Enhanced Damage
-25% Target Defense
Adds 3-14 Cold Damage
-25% To Enemy Fire Resistance
40% Chance of Crushing Blow
+200-300 Defense (varies)
+10 To Strength
+10 To Dexterity
All Resistances +20-30 (varies)
Requirements -20%


imo, they seem to be sort similar. It looks like Obed will hit a little less, but hit harder and the CM will hit more (ITD) do less but can static the guy.

Still, what kinda char is the merc for?
 

franzjosef

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..and I thought I was hot stuff for making Stone in an ethereal loricated mail suit. Oh well, I'll have to settle for my 'piddling' 2759 defense...

I suppose Tals vs Andys is a matter of taste, unless your merc is hurting on strength to pick up that big Bonehew or Reapers erc. Also a question of level, since Andys is a clvl 83 hat. Another option, especially for boss runners, is Guillaume's Face from the Orphan's Call set. No leech but 35% CB (we did settle that CB works on mercs?). Socket it with an Amn and let your big boy tank.
 

MyCompSucks

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franzjosef said:
..and I thought I was hot stuff for making Stone in an ethereal loricated mail suit. Oh well, I'll have to settle for my 'piddling' 2759 defense...

I suppose Tals vs Andys is a matter of taste, unless your merc is hurting on strength to pick up that big Bonehew or Reapers erc. Also a question of level, since Andys is a clvl 83 hat. Another option, especially for boss runners, is Guillaume's Face from the Orphan's Call set. No leech but 35% CB (we did settle that CB works on mercs?). Socket it with an Amn and let your big boy tank.
it does work iirc, on some chars, i have those in the stash for boss killings and stuff.
yea, i forgot about the lvl req for andys, my merc needed that to hold his eth cv insight. If you need str, you can always socket armors/helms with FALs or use the Stone r/w for 15 to str
 

lior

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My merc is for a sorc.
So I'll keep my CM, but if I can get my hands on a forti, should I?
And between tal's andy's and gaze?
 

MyCompSucks

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lior said:
My merc is for a sorc.
So I'll keep my CM, but if I can get my hands on a forti, should I?
And between tal's andy's and gaze?
if you don't need the str, you probally dont need an andy's
What are the merc res, if not maxed used Tals over gaze otherwise gaze (why don't these show up on mercs, they look awesome)

fyi, best merc wep for a sorc is an infinity polearm, with is ber +mal+ber ist, so..... I'd say go for the the fort or stone
 

lior

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MyCompSucks said:
if you don't need the str, you probally dont need an andy's
What are the merc res, if not maxed used Tals over gaze otherwise gaze (why don't these show up on mercs, they look awesome)

fyi, best merc wep for a sorc is an infinity polearm, with is ber +mal+ber ist, so..... I'd say go for the the fort or stone
infinity? not doom?
 

Leohappy

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I prefer Gaze for most of my char mercs. Definitely helps them survive better than Andy's/Tal's (perf 8-20 that is). I usually use Andy on my bowzon/barb merc, since it improves merc's might aura, giving me more damage as well :drool: .

Also you guys forgot Crown of Ages. Supersweet helm for merc, but also expensive.
 

SirDooFuss

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lior said:
infinity? not doom?
It's the AURA!!! Can you think of a better aura for a sorc than conviction???

Also, when it comes to checking runeword stats I sometimes use ebay. Just search "fortitude uswest" or some such. They almost always have pics that show full stats. (no, I have never bought a virtual item on ebay:lol: )
 

DeMeVeR

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my sorcs merc uses
infinity (eth tresher for ias)
eth andariel visage 'jewel ias / 26% fire res'
eth gladiators bane 'jewel ias / 14 res all'

this way he got:
a super aura
40% crushing blow
50% ias
30% fhr
cannot be frozen
19 magic damage reduce (great vs blaze or any damage/frame attack)
75 / 75 / 75 / 85 res all
-50% poison length
 
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