Which 4 mephi runs?

[w.t.g]

Which 4 mephi runs?

i am currently making sorc, she will use charced bolt as her main killing skill, but sorc is still low lvl, so i can still make new one, it is just in normal baals now. I will use this sorc to mephi runs mainly. I was thinking, which is better meph runner? I will use ES, so i'm not sure would never get max synergies to hydra :grrr:

Also, what kinda gear do u suggest CB/or hydra sorc for meph runs? I was thinking typical shako - skullder/viper - arach - etc, but if some1 got good ideas, please, tell me.

I was thinking this skill set up 4 CB
max cb
max lightning
max telekines
max mastery
rest in ES

or for hydra

Hydra max
max mastery
max telekines
1 point in ES
max synergies for hydra

-W.t.g

 

[twelvebagger]

While it’s possible to make a meph runner out of either of those skills, it’s not going to be a very efficient meph runner. For CB I would recommend orb as secondary.

For a sorc designed only to run meph, I believe pure fire is the way to go, using fireball and meteor alternately. (1 meteor, 2 fireballs in between, 1 meteor, etc)

Standard setup would include max firebolt, fireball, meteor, fire mastery, 1 pt in warmth, tele, ES, prereqs.

For Gear: Shako, Tals Armor, Occulus, Tals amulet, Tals Belt, Rhyme, magefists, nagels, mf boots.

Not the answer you wanted, but I posted it in case it helps any.

 

[sheepe2004]

a pure blizz sorc is better than fire for meph runs since he has 75% res all (unless you have lots of -fire res gear)

I wouldnt recommend energy shield for a meph runner though since with the moat trick and decent tele speed you can avoid almost all damage anyway.

 

[twelvebagger]

I wouldnt recommend energy shield for a meph runner though since with the moat trick and decent tele speed you can avoid almost all damage anyway.

The moat trick, while safe, is:

1) A waste of time.
2) Not necessary if you build correctly.

With that said, energy shield is wonderful because you and your merc can just tank meph. If you build correctly, you won't get hit more than twice anyways, because he'll be dead by then.

 

[pryzmatik2]

a waste of time? all you have to do is get his attention, walk toward the edge of the platform hes on, and tele over... i dont see how your "wasting" time...

I find it to be the most helpful part of running meph... I think that sacrificing ES for more damage would make for a possibly faster mf run that running/tele'ing around tanking him with less damage...

also, if your blizz'ing meph, he takes alot of hits from one blizzard, because he jitters around the whole radius that blizzard hits.

 

[Sartok]

For the CB part... you will to kill meph yes... tank him yes... but with high mf? I don't know, all lightning skills are pretty skills dependant, CB less than most but still... my sorc has a lvl 46 or something CB and lvl 40 ES and can just stand and tank hits, and when she wants can down Meph in a few quick shots... but! What mf does she have? I think about 50 (Shako) The thing is... my inv is full of charms, and I don't know if it would be worthwhile to spend all the time it takes to kill meph without those charms, when mf will still be rather lacking... I would go Blizz if its for pure meph running, besides, if you get bored blizz also works well on andy/pindle... variety keeps this game interesting.

 

[w.t.g]

For the CB part... you will to kill meph yes... tank him yes... but with high mf? I don't know, all lightning skills are pretty skills dependant, CB less than most but still... my sorc has a lvl 46 or something CB and lvl 40 ES and can just stand and tank hits, and when she wants can down Meph in a few quick shots... but! What mf does she have? I think about 50 (Shako) The thing is... my inv is full of charms, and I don't know if it would be worthwhile to spend all the time it takes to kill meph without those charms, when mf will still be rather lacking... I would go Blizz if its for pure meph running, besides, if you get bored blizz also works well on andy/pindle... variety keeps this game interesting.

If i use occu+shako (PT), gheed, wt , this gives me allready180-250mf, this is enough, i never had more mf on my sorc. And someone said that 250-300 is optimal becouse dimishing return?

May i ask how much your charced bolt does damage?

-W.t.g :drink:

edit: i know that pure fire or blizz sorc is better, but i don't like to play cookie-cutter...

 

[Gaza0469]

If i use occu+shako (PT), gheed, wt , this gives me allready180-250mf, this is enough, i never had more mf on my sorc. And someone said that 250-300 is optimal becouse dimishing return?

May i ask how much your charced bolt does damage?

-W.t.g :drink:

edit: i know that pure fire or blizz sorc is better, but i don't like to play cookie-cutter...

Can neva have 2 much MF gear, especially on a Sorc since they are not gear dependent.

350-400% is a nice level to aim for. For MF I wouldnt go less than 300%

If you can get upto 600% all the better.

I always say that a MF's character's main skill should be Mf

Both Cold and fire are viable for Mephi, its a personal preference

 

[Liessa Wyrmbane]

I would go with CB sorc because:
• You will have lots of +Lightning Skills which makes your Teleport, ES and Static much more powerful. My CB sorc can teleport ad infinitum.
• Lightning skillers are much cheaper than fire skillers.

 

[Arewyn]

The moat trick, while safe, is:

1) A waste of time.
2) Not necessary if you build correctly.

With that said, energy shield is wonderful because you and your merc can just tank meph. If you build correctly, you won't get hit more than twice anyways, because he'll be dead by then.

IMO: The moat trick isn't a waste of time because what if your playing untwinked and your resists are extremely poor? One good orb from Meph or his Poison and your going to have a nice corpse eating dirt on the ground.



I also wouldn't do a Lightning Build for Meph as its Low Minimum damage and his resists wouldn't make it worthwhile. I would extremely consider using Blizzard or Frozen Orb instead, the runs will go by much faster and Meph will die quicker.

 

[TonyBone]

I've never built one myself but I've seen a few pure lightning Sorcs around. The do extremely well with Cows. I even saw one run the pits well, using CL or LB (not sure which) on everything she could kill and teleporting away from the lightning immunes. It might be viable for Pindle as well. For most others tho I think you'll have a tough time.

Like others have said, for pure Mephy runnning you best off with pure cold blizzard since the Cold Mastery reduces his immunity making him a quicker kill.

If you want a decent multi-runner solo character, then I'd go with a Meteor/Fireball and Blizzard/Glacial spike sorc. While not as fast a killer as a one-skill tree sorc, she can handle just about anything (except maybe the countess - FI and CI. Merc anyone?). It's what I use and I've had great success with her, and I don't have any +skill charms on her...not yet at least.

 

[demonchild]

Mf

My lv 84 blizz mf sorc has 835 mf and all -35 or worse resistance in hell i dont use a merc and i die like once in a 150 runs. I have 150 pts in mana/life use eshild.

(i dont find any thing good from meph at all need help) :scratch: