Wheres the Hybird Zon Guide?

NewForumBloke

NewForumBloke

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Wheres the Hybird Zon Guide?

I was looking to make a hybird zon jav/bow but i cant find a guide to help me out with skills. Would it just be better to make a bowa or java zon than a hybird if one doesnt exist? Or should i experiment with my own lol. If you know where one is please link me to it or if you know for a fact that the hybird zon died with the 1.10 patch also let me know so that i can choose a java pvm zon or a bowa pvm zon :p .

Ty

-BLoke
 
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GargonCerlan

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I have a bow/java hybrid of sorts... Except that I placed no points into lightning fury. If you use thundergods vigor and titans revenge with a spirit shield, any +2 helm, bul kathos rings, +2 or +3 jav skill gloves, highlord's wrath or mara's kaleidoscope amulet, chains of honor or arkaine's valor and a few jav grand charms, you're looking at somewhere around a level 25 lightning fury without a single point in the skill. This sort of changes a bit when you switch over to bow because you lack the ias, resists, fhr, etc, depending on the other mods of what you decide to use. But overall it seems to work well for me. I have a high level pierce and the lack of actual skill points in lf doesnt seem to make much of a difference. Granted it doesnt work as well as a fully decked out javazon, but it can be effective if used properly. Basically, when I do cows or pits or anything like that, I'll throw 3 or 4 javs at the back then switch to bow to pick the rest off with strafe. Hope this helps some, as I see that not many others responded previously!

Cheers!

GargonCerlan :drink: :buddies:
 
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Superhal

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my first was flux's hybrid mf zon, now in the .09 section in the strat compendium. i don't make them exactly like that anymore (multishot/LF) because both skills are too good. when i'm using one, i want to use the other. imho, if you really want to make a good hybrid, pick two skills that complement each other in very different circumstances. for example, jab + an elemental bow skill. actually, i don't know of too many circumstances where LF can't work and that i would use a bow skill instead, so to really get the most out of a hybrid, i would say don't use LF at all.
 
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Cheetor

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I have an hybrid Multishot/LF myself althow she is only level 40. I use an soketed bow (Larzuk) with flawless emeralds, I gets abot 500 poison damage over 7 seconds, pretty good for level 40. she shoots 7 arows at a time.
The way I figure it Poison damage is complementary to LF, especialy since there are plenty of resistant and lightning imune monsters out there, so poison will take them out quick. She shoots seven arows , So at least one is bound to hit.
I have taken into consideration an poison and lighting imune monster (not to many thow) but the might merc and valk will take care of them.
Any sugestions to increase the poison damage in hell, to be efective, I plan to achive 1k pioson damage over 7 sec, But I belive more is neded for hell.
 
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Superhal

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Cheetor said:
I have an hybrid Multishot/LF myself althow she is only level 40. I use an soketed bow (Larzuk) with flawless emeralds, I gets abot 500 poison damage over 7 seconds, pretty good for level 40. she shoots 7 arows at a time.
The way I figure it Poison damage is complementary to LF, especialy since there are plenty of resistant and lightning imune monsters out there, so poison will take them out quick. She shoots seven arows , So at least one is bound to hit.
I have taken into consideration an poison and lighting imune monster (not to many thow) but the might merc and valk will take care of them.
Any sugestions to increase the poison damage in hell, to be efective, I plan to achive 1k pioson damage over 7 sec, But I belive more is neded for hell.
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that's a pretty good idea, the problem though is that poison and strafe isn't a good match, as the pd will reset for every strafe hit, and getting the initial hit is not easy. i think it would make a better match with ms, as ms makes getting the hit much easier with lower penetrate. also, getting enough poison damage will take up a huge amount of inv space. imho, LF takes care of everything except pi+li, which is not very common to begin with.

imho, if you use strafe, i would go with a harmony or hellrack. i'm also toying with the idea of a high level magic arrow as it would save some skill points vs freezing arrow. with pierce and a fast bow, you could get some crowd control effects.

poison would also go well with guided arrow, imho, as you would only have to worry about blocking as it (supposedly) has the "always hits" feature.

overall though, freezing arrow and multishot are the only skills worth getting in the bow tree to me. strafe has too many problems with ar and ias.
 
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Cheetor

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How can lf take care of LI ?
I thought it only does lighting damage, shure it also dos a bit physical,(from the javelin) but I don't think it is enough to kill am army like those LI skelyes in hell, you know the ones.
Or am I wrong?

I whas thinking about using a five socketed bow with five perfect saphires, with a litle level 6 mulitishot(seven shots). The bow can shoot very fast and plenty arows at a time to make up for the somewhat small cold damage. but I belive at 8 mana per shot I won't be able to shot that many times. The mana bowl will be empty faster than a beer can on vacation.
Any sugestions on how to make this tactic better?
 
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Superhal

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yep if i'm too lazy to jab, i'll just throw em all. i use two sets of javs. the great thing about LF too is that it always hits, that's why there's no ar rating.
 
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Superhal

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Cheetor said:
so they are useless in hell, right?

What damage does your javelin do?
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the titans does 800, the demon arch hits 1600, but the demon arch has a ton of elemental on it. i wouldn't say useless, i finished hell a lot easier than my strafer, and i use this zon to help out other chars vs immunes.
 
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