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When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

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  1. hacgumyu

    hacgumyu IncGamers Member

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    When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    I would like to know what level is suitable to do key farming, organ bosses, uber trisram...

    I currently have HammerDin lvl 80:
    gears:
    HOTO, HOZ, Enigma, Shako, Waterwalk boot, BK & ravenfrost
    1600 life, 400mana, 8k hammer damage.

    Does my hammerdin good enough to at least solo those 3 organ bosses?

    Should I farm keys in a 8 players game like one of those baal game?

    Is it always need full 8 players group to do uber?

    where I can find player to start/join uber party?




    thanks
     
  2. Davio

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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    You can try to hammer your way to organs and uber, but I won't try it.

    Get a smiter for those jobs.

    I like to get to at least lvl 90 with any char I'm seriously playing with, it's not that hard and you get 10 more skill points / 50 att points.
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    Your stats are fine for getting the keys, I did it on my hammerdin with those stats.

    You won't be able to do the keys in an 8 player game with those stats.

    Why would you need 8 people to do ubers? You can solo it with a smiter, kicker, frenzy barb, melee sorc, Any of those will be fine, I choose smiter because they are cheap, you can easy solo ubers with easy to obtain gear.
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    i was reading some uber trisram guide said they have 3 paly smiter, 1 barb, 1 durid, 1 necro & 2 others to form a group to efficiently kill 3 uber bosses... did i misread something?
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    That guide must be pretty old, I have soloed uber tristram 4 times with my 1 point smiter.
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    You didn't misread, it's just not necessary to have so many people in the game to kill the Ubers, you can kill them alone.

    It's more fun to share the experience though as long as you can agree on who gets the torch.
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    I have also seen that guide with a large pary doing Uber Tristram.

    You all here say that you can solo it alone. I've read the Smiter guide to soloing Uber Tristram but the gear for a "newcomer" is completely inaccesible.

    I made a post about this on the wrong forum here: http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=652925

    Can you guys give some input on this?
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    Thanks for the link.

    Really helpful.

    Just made me think that even a zon (fast jab, poison - PMH) with a Fan pally and a Salvation pally should be able to handle the three (one or more could have lifetap wands).
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    Not sure about the uber quests or tristram since I haven't done them yet. However, you can begin farming keys as soon as you get the the fourth quest (countess) in the Hell level. Assuming your character is powerful enough to take on the monsters there, you'll begin to get the key of terror. In act 2, you'll get the key of hate from the summoner. Finally, once you've reached act 5, you can get the key of destruction from Nilithak.

    You can't open any of the mini-ubers until you reach act 5, so I'd just collect the keys. You'll also find them very tradeable. Also, you won't have to run Nilithak to get the key of destruction since you can trade for that. Generall one Key of D will go for two other keys. That way you can start gathering organs immediately when you reach act 5.

    Some ppl will wait until they have three key sets to open the portals since you never know just which portal will open (if you just open one). This way they can be assured of getting all three organs using the minimum number of key sets.

    Good luck.
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    how often the countess/summoner/Nilithak drop keys? I have been running those places for like 20 times without a single key. Is that normal? should I take off some MF gears in order for higher key drop chance?
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    its normal.
    its all about luck.
    and good luck !
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    On average they seem to drop about 1 every 15 runs. They can also drop two keys at once (I see this once every 20ish runs).


     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    If your're running countess for runes it's a bit easier, since you can get both runes and keys. But if you already have an unlimited amount of runes, then you can probably trade those for keys.
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    MF does nothing to do with dropping keys. First the game decides if gold/key/rune/equip.item is dropped. Then MF will have effect on magic quality of the item. Keys have obviously only basic magic quality.



     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    Regarding droprate, check here.

    It might still be more profitable to run Countess on /players 1 (ie. 1 player games) because of the better rune drops.
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    Now you really got me troubled.

    the command /players x works only on single player. But the Uber Tristram and keys are Realm only. So how does this apply??
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    Keys do drop in Single player, but you can't transmute them and create the portal. When an uber key drops for me in SP, I just say for myself "Oh another one of this BNet Crap reducing my chance for some useful item drop". :azn:

    EDIT: Also players number coresponds with number of players on BNet (if they are unpartied or not in the same area - speaking about drop chances)



     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    Given your gear, I say get dracs, gores, grief, and a high resist shield (either griz, sanctuary, or simply a 4 diamond shield). Now go pwn the ubers with your 1 point smite. It can be done w/o grief, but since you have the wealth to do it, why not? If you are unsure about resist, get treachery to prebuff and possibly a Kira's. Remember to run salvation vs Mephy.

    Basically, use the 1 point smiter guide (and/or the vanquisher guide) as a template, and just use conc instead of fanat.
     
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    Re: When to start key farming, Uber.. etc?

    I noticed that I can run Nilly with the Uber-Slayer Smiter.

    About 70% of the time I get the map where the next level is to the lower left, so i can walk there quick.
    Then I can use redemption to prevent Corpse explosion:
    - I draw some of the monsters away from nilly, cause he's mobbed.
    - I kill and redeem them
    - cast life tap on nilly with wand
    - rush him and smite him to death (zeal would create corpses for him to blow up)

    The are 2 problems:
    - occasionally you get All monsters immune to physical (zeal/veng with Lightsabre helps here)
    - smite stun is not long enough to keep Nilly in Stun lock, so he can tele...

    Which brings me to my question:
    Since I maxed all essential skills (Fana, HS, Sacrifce), and added to utility skills, now I have points and don't know where to put them.
    I put a few in Zeal and Defiance, but I was wondering about Smite.
    Increasing the Stun length is what I want, so I keep the Uniques in stun lock (mostly to ptotect other players:smiley:)

    What you guys think about this? (Where to put extra points: defiance/zeal/smite?)
     

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