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When should i use CoA?

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by TheBe, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. TheBe

    TheBe IncGamers Member

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    When should i use CoA?

    I'm thinking to buy CoA for my bvc, but i have no idea when use it:shocked: . Would that be my "alltime helmet"? And should i use arreat's anywhere then? Please tell me:azn: .
     
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    vs mele and windies.
     
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    TheBe IncGamers Member

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    Hmm.. Do i really need CoA? Since only meelee i duel are amas and palas and i have no problems with them.. But windies.. Haven't dueled them alot, so can't really say..
     
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    SicHalo IncGamers Member

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    well i think its standard equipment vs a god windy u want high dr if not max and again vs a good smiter high dr will be needed.

    Cuz if ppl don't use CoA they atleast use Gaze or even a 1 sock CoA and i hear rockstoper brought up as well.

    a good bowazon will be hard without alot of DR, as u want fcr at the same time as DR so the helm really does suite this situation.
     
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    TheBe IncGamers Member

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    Ok thanks, will 1 soc CoA be too much worse than 2 soc?
     
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    coa just gives more room for mistakes vs windy and melee

    windy nados do quite alot of dmg and coa is best pub helm
     
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    Vs Smiters you want to have CoA because they can heal to full life many times, thus you either need to out-skill them or have more room for errors, aka CoA.

    Vs Windies. They have almost the same life as you do, they have stack, but they do a little less damage. This is why you want to have CoA, as they can out-life you, specially with max dr and max block in the game.

    Vs. Amas. Well, it's nice to have a CoA vs. a kb bowazon, as you can then spend half of your life getting to the bowazon, while you will have enough life to kill the bowazon. All due to DR.

    a perfect 1 socket CoA won't be too much worse than a 2 socket one.
     
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    thanks, this helped, but what u think about CoA's allres? Is that really needed`? If i use this against Windies, pala's, amas and they don't use elemental..
     
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    Well, you do use it in public games, so it would be nice if you would have pretty high-ish resistances. However, dr>resistances by far. Mine is a 28/27 one.
     
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    I haven't met many windies or good smiters in pubs, so i think i would use arreat's more.. OR meaby CoA if i manage to buy 1 and see how it fits my barb :p
     
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    What's so much better about Arreat's compared to CoA?

    The same resistance, the same All res.

    The only things I can think about are +stats, which are only needed when using alternative equipment (Widowmaker and Fortitude). And no, +skills do pretty much no good for BvCs.
     
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    That depends on his build, stats etc. If you do not have str for CoA with bo knives/spears you loose a bit of life. You loose whatever is socketed in arreat as well such as ed/ias jewel.

    Coa is a nice item to have whenever you need damage reduction as others have mentioned. Once you meet a good smiter or windy you will clearly see the difference.

    Mike
     
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    TheBe IncGamers Member

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    Thanks for help guys, now i'm getting more warm to thinking to spend lots of ists
    to buy CoA. :)


    Edit: What u guys think, which is more important? 2 x Dooms OR CoA? I got 1 doom already, but I think that can't afford second now, if i buy CoA:undecided: . So whats ur opinnion, which helps me more? I'm starting to fall to CoA's side..
     
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    CoA is more important, plenty of barbs do fine without dooms, be it because of lack of stash space of poverty (that was my case :wink3: )
    1 doom and a bo knife should work just fine.


    Mike
     
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    I would like to disagree here.

    Since you will now use the Doom ONLY vs. bowazons and some smiters, you will not need it on your swap. You should rather have a +3 wc/lifetap wand coupled with another one like that on your switch.

    It depends.

    If you're struggling to get a 1-socket CoA, you are better off getting a second Doom and using a Ber VGaze instead.

    Overall, I would say that CoA helps more, but you have no substitutes for Dooms, unlike you have for CoA. I myself found that I've grown too used to the Dooms when I faced a kb bowazon without Dooms with 2 screens between us.
     

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