When can I shop gloves with weaken charges?

[Emil Boeje]

When can I shop gloves with weaken charges?

Title says it all, another question though, what is the correct formula?

I've used some time looking through this site, and the AS, and I found a formular that said Ilvl in shop = Clvl + 5

I found the max Ilvl in normal, and yet it doesn't seem to work.

For instance, according to the single player untwinked guide on this forum, you'll first be able to buy a 3 socketed helm (artisan's) in act5 normal. However according to the AS, the Ilvl is 33, and thereby it should be possible to buy it in act4 normal which have a maximum of Ilvl 36. So if someone could explain how it really works I'd appreciate it, thank you.

Btw. when would the smartest time be to try to gamble for sucs gloves as mentioned in the title?

 

[Orphan]

Re: When can I shop gloves with weaken charges?

You can shop for weaken gloves from clvl 20 and onwards. At ilvl 25, the gloves will have slvl 1 weaken, 22 charges. At ilvl 44, the gloves will have slvl 2 weaken, with 25 charges. At ilvl 62, the gloves will have slvl 3 weaken, with 27 charges. At ilvl 81 the gloves will have slvl 4 weaken, with 30 charges. Finally at ilvl 99 the gloves will have slvl 5 weaken, with 32 charges.

Edit: Note that although purchasable at clvl 20, you won't be able to equip them until clvl 24. This does have some advantages, because if you're shopping with a clvl 20 character then you only need to check the red gloves, which would speed things up.

another question though, what is the correct formula?

I've used some time looking through this site, and the AS, and I found a formular that said Ilvl in shop = Clvl + 5

I found the max Ilvl in normal, and yet it doesn't seem to work.

For instance, according to the single player untwinked guide on this forum, you'll first be able to buy a 3 socketed helm (artisan's) in act5 normal. However according to the AS, the Ilvl is 33, and thereby it should be possible to buy it in act4 normal which have a maximum of Ilvl 36. So if someone could explain how it really works I'd appreciate it, thank you.

The ilvl of shopped items is indeed equal to clvl + 5, and there are caps on normal (12 for act 1, 20 for act 2, 28 for act 3, 36 for act 4 and 45 for act 5), but the ilvl of the item isn't the only thing which is used to determine the affix level (alvl, which is what AS lists). In other words, just because an affix requires an alvl of 33 doesn't mean if the item has an ilvl of 33 it can get it.

The alvl of an item is determined by it's ilvl and qlvl, using the following formula:

If (ilvl>99) then {ilvl=99}
if (qlvl>ilvl) then {ilvl=qlvl} ;** see note below
if (magic_lvl>0) then {alvl=ilvl+magic_lvl}
else
{
if (ilvl<(99-qlvl/2))
then {alvl=ilvl-qlvl/2}
else {alvl=2*ilvl-99}
}
If (alvl>99) then {alvl=99}

For example, in order for a bone helm (qlvl 22) to get the Artisan's prefix, it needs to at least have an ilvl of 44.

Btw. when would the smartest time be to try to gamble for sucs gloves as mentioned in the title?

You should be able to gamble them from clvl 21 onwards, though you'll probably have a hard time. Gambled items have an ilvl randomly between clvl -5 to clvl +4, so with a clvl 21 character the gambled item shall be anywhere between ilvl 16 and ilvl 25. To ensure the ilvl is high enough, you'll want to be clvl 30. Otherwise you might be better off purchasing some magical gloves with a clvl 20 character.

 

[Emil Boeje]

Re: When can I shop gloves with weaken charges?

Thank you so much! :cloud9:

It'd be really nice if these informations were stickied.

Edit: Forgot to mention, something that's rather cruel about this. You can first shop for these gloves in act3 if I have understand the information correct, and the most likely candidate would be ashera (or what she's named), however she's so far away from the wp, always, so one'll have to run quite a bit. However it probably won't help much waiting for act4 since halbu, like hralti in act3, seldom seems to sell gloves at all.