whats the typical stat point distro for assasins

l-ater

Diabloii.Net Member
whats the typical stat point distro for assasins

like what % to strenght dex and all that

or say maybe typical for a martial arts assassin
 

basketball

Diabloii.Net Member
i guess...

l-ater said:
like what % to strenght dex and all that

or say maybe typical for a martial arts assassin
dont touch energy. dats a fact.
u need high str for a kicker (MA) like bout 250, and high vit... also above 200...
dex i really dont know... it depends, if u usin a shiled and want max block...
actually im not sure at all in the dex part...
about 118 2 use the best Katars...

wait for more answers...
 

Speederländer

Diabloii.Net Member
basketball said:
dont touch energy. dats a fact.
u need high str for a kicker (MA) like bout 250, and high vit... also above 200...
dex i really dont know... it depends, if u usin a shiled and want max block...
actually im not sure at all in the dex part...
about 118 2 use the best Katars...

wait for more answers...

Eh?

High str as a kicker?

You need enough str to wear your equipment. Then go for crushing blow, lifetap and amp as need. Especially CB. You do NOT need to pump str if you have good CB.
 

basketball

Diabloii.Net Member
ummm

Speederländer said:
Eh?

High str as a kicker?

You need enough str to wear your equipment. Then go for crushing blow, lifetap and amp as need. Especially CB. You do NOT need to pump str if you have good CB.
u sure? str pumpin ur kicks dmg alot... dats what every1 told me...
after reset im about 2 start my first kicker sin so i cant tell alot...
still, im sure dat str give more 2 kick dmg.
 

BatTheMan

Diabloii.Net Member
basketball said:
u sure? str pumpin ur kicks dmg alot... dats what every1 told me...
after reset im about 2 start my first kicker sin so i cant tell alot...
still, im sure dat str give more 2 kick dmg.
Actually pumping strenght or dex will equally enhanced your kick damage so either is good. Pump Str for Item Req and Dex for max block or Item Req.
 

Rekoc

Diabloii.Net Member
Str = enough to use equipment
Dex = enough to use equipment if dual wielding if not and going for max block enough for it
Rest into vitality

Str and dex do not enhance your kick damage so much that you need to put more points into them then needed.
 

Speederländer

Diabloii.Net Member
BatTheMan said:
Actually pumping strenght or dex will equally enhanced your kick damage so either is good. Pump Str for Item Req and Dex for max block or Item Req.
No. "Pumping" a stat means taking it high than basic equipment requirements. And for a kicker, unless you are making a titan, you are better off getting enough str/dex for equipment/block(if not C-C) and then adding extra "damage" via effects like crushing blow and amp. The returns on kick damage by pumping stats beyond equipment reqs are hardly worth it.
 

BatTheMan

Diabloii.Net Member
Speederländer said:
No. "Pumping" a stat means taking it high than basic equipment requirements. And for a kicker, unless you are making a titan, you are better off getting enough str/dex for equipment/block(if not C-C) and then adding extra "damage" via effects like crushing blow and amp. The returns on kick damage by pumping stats beyond equipment reqs are hardly worth it.
I agree with you I was just correcting basketball that if you actually want to rely on your kick damage than pump Dex instead of Str, and Str is only needed to use gear whereas Dex increases Block and Ar.
 

phool

Diabloii.Net Member
BatTheMan said:
Actually pumping strenght or dex will equally enhanced your kick damage so either is good. Pump Str for Item Req and Dex for max block or Item Req.
I'm not so big on stats myself but if I recall correctly then since 1.10 the formula changed and increasing strength has a greater effect than dex. (but I agree with the 'get minimum to meet reqs only' suggestion - although if ur 1st char after reset is gonna be a kicksin, you probably won't be planning equipment)
 

jrichard

Diabloii.Net Member
Strength and Dex don't increase kick damage equally.

Basketball, most Dtalon users rely more on effects such as crushing blow which get applied repeatedly very fast with the multiple kicks. Kicker has come to refer to talon builds instead of an assassin using any of the kick skills.

If you are wanting to use Dtail, then investing into strength is a decent option as the increase from strength gets multiplied by the Dtail bonus. It doesn't hit as fast so the benefit of going for effects on your kicks are far less.

The same goes with Dflight, increasing strength would do more for overall damage than looking for effects.

jrichard

edit: However, Titan kicker builds can be a lot of fun. It's not something i'd reccomend as a first ladder character though.
 

BatTheMan

Diabloii.Net Member
Yes sorry about saying Str = Dex. I just realized it now or must of forgotten it.

********************************************

MinDamage= (str + dex - 20) / 4 * (100 + skill_bonus) / 100 + BootMinDam * (100 + (str * StrBonus / 100) + skill_bonus + non_weapon ED + Aura_bonus) / 100

MaxDamage=(str + dex - 20) / 3 * (100 + skill_bonus) / 100 + BootMaxDam * (100 + (str * StrBonus / 100) + skill_bonus + non_weapon ED + Aura_bonus) / 100

This equation needs to be worked left to right following the mathematical order of operations. Drop decimals when you get them from division.

(100 + (str*StrBonus/100) + skill_bonus + non_weapon ED+Aura_bonus)
As you can see from the boot damage chart, all boots have a str bonus of 120. The skill_bonus slot is handled just as it was in the previous part of the equation. Non-weapon ED is also added to this portion of the equation. Aura_bonus is self-explanatory, it's basically where the ED bonuses from stuff like Might, Concentration, and Fanatiscm is added. Here’s why str becomes a better choice than dex for raising kick damage in 1.10. Dex will still give AR and defense, but for pure damage increase str gets figured into the equation twice whereas dex only gets figured into the first part of the equation.

********************************************
 

basketball

Diabloii.Net Member
jrichard said:
Strength and Dex don't increase kick damage equally.

Basketball, most Dtalon users rely more on effects such as crushing blow which get applied repeatedly very fast with the multiple kicks. Kicker has come to refer to talon builds instead of an assassin using any of the kick skills.

If you are wanting to use Dtail, then investing into strength is a decent option as the increase from strength gets multiplied by the Dtail bonus. It doesn't hit as fast so the benefit of going for effects on your kicks are far less.

The same goes with Dflight, increasing strength would do more for overall damage than looking for effects.

jrichard

edit: However, Titan kicker builds can be a lot of fun. It's not something i'd reccomend as a first ladder character though.
i meant Dtail.
its my first MA sin and its gonna be gr8.
i had my WW barb, my Lightnin sorc and the Frost Zealot...
i just hate necro's and amazon is a cookey cutter...
i guess itll be ok for me
 
Top