Whats the deal with Raven claw?
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krischan
Europe Trade Moderator
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
FYI, 1.08 and earlier items are not allowed to be traded here, see the do not trade list. Doing it anyway leads to a temp ban - and on a second offense it's a permanent ban.
I'm not sure about single-player, as using different patch levels are probably common there. Check the trading rules before drawing any hasty conclusions, however.
FYI, 1.08 and earlier items are not allowed to be traded here, see the do not trade list. Doing it anyway leads to a temp ban - and on a second offense it's a permanent ban.
I'm not sure about single-player, as using different patch levels are probably common there. Check the trading rules before drawing any hasty conclusions, however.
sirpoopsalot
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
But as krischan mentioned, check the trading rules of whatever subforum you're visiting, as they sometimes/often differ, and none of the mods appreciate when someone breaks the rules in ignorance.
By the way, I don't see why an online player would want one. Without the upgrade-bug they fire level3 Exploding Arrows, so it's not like you couldn't make a better twinking bow on your own.
Edit: Oh, if you have an Enchantress enchant you, the explosion carries the Enchant damage, so you get an area of effect for your Enchant damage... I guess that makes sense.
fyi, earlier versions are allowed to be traded in SP, but you can't send items 'back' (so no Treachery runeword sent to a 1.10 player/character, etc...).
But as krischan mentioned, check the trading rules of whatever subforum you're visiting, as they sometimes/often differ, and none of the mods appreciate when someone breaks the rules in ignorance.
By the way, I don't see why an online player would want one. Without the upgrade-bug they fire level3 Exploding Arrows, so it's not like you couldn't make a better twinking bow on your own.
Edit: Oh, if you have an Enchantress enchant you, the explosion carries the Enchant damage, so you get an area of effect for your Enchant damage... I guess that makes sense.
Hrus
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
btw, Raven Claw from 1.09 still had the lvl30 EA (It was downgraded in 1.10). If I am not mistaken 1.09 items can still be present in closed (if they were found in previous version)? I am not sure how the 1.08 item trade restriction is done - but probably it is only for items which have clearly "enhanced" or atleast different item mods... You can't distinguish between 1.08 and 1.09 Ravenclaw.
btw, Raven Claw from 1.09 still had the lvl30 EA (It was downgraded in 1.10). If I am not mistaken 1.09 items can still be present in closed (if they were found in previous version)? I am not sure how the 1.08 item trade restriction is done - but probably it is only for items which have clearly "enhanced" or atleast different item mods... You can't distinguish between 1.08 and 1.09 Ravenclaw.
iomanip
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
allright, thx.
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edit: hmm, and there is a slight scent of paranoia around here i think...
. I have read the Europe trading rules, and I'm not intending to buy/sell anything from previous versions. Im 1.12 and dont even know how to go back. take care /Io
allright, thx.
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edit: hmm, and there is a slight scent of paranoia around here i think...
. I have read the Europe trading rules, and I'm not intending to buy/sell anything from previous versions. Im 1.12 and dont even know how to go back. take care /Io
krischan
Europe Trade Moderator
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
I didn't mean it in reply to you, but we had a lot of newcomers since the ladder reset and the announcement of D3. That's why I'm currently coming up with a few more lectures and advice about things which regular visitors and traders already know.
As trading 1.08 items on the bnet forums here has rather severe consequences, I prefer to clarify the situation in advance instead of banning people for things which could have been avoided.
I didn't mean it in reply to you, but we had a lot of newcomers since the ladder reset and the announcement of D3. That's why I'm currently coming up with a few more lectures and advice about things which regular visitors and traders already know.
As trading 1.08 items on the bnet forums here has rather severe consequences, I prefer to clarify the situation in advance instead of banning people for things which could have been avoided.
Hrus
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
I will ask again, how you can say about a Ravenclaw if it was 1.08 or 1.09?
krischan
Europe Trade Moderator
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
I cannot find the posting where you asked for the first time, you just wondered about it
Whatever, if there is no difference between a 1.08 or earlier item and a later one, it makes no sense to distinguish between them, of course. That means, it should be OK to offer a version with L30 exploding arrows on nonladder, except it's on the DNT list or it's regarded as a common dupe (which might be the case, as it might be interesting for LLD). Similarly, dual leech rings are OK as well, as they reappeared in 1.10, except there are versions which aren't possible in 1.10 or it's about known dupes.
I cannot find the posting where you asked for the first time, you just wondered about it
Whatever, if there is no difference between a 1.08 or earlier item and a later one, it makes no sense to distinguish between them, of course. That means, it should be OK to offer a version with L30 exploding arrows on nonladder, except it's on the DNT list or it's regarded as a common dupe (which might be the case, as it might be interesting for LLD). Similarly, dual leech rings are OK as well, as they reappeared in 1.10, except there are versions which aren't possible in 1.10 or it's about known dupes.
bassen
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
I just forwarded mine from 1.07 to 1.12a and it nukes most of the monsters :thumbup::jig: (gonna socket it later with a Shael or IAS jewel to make it more faster
Also combined on a Amazon you can reach a very high damage of exploding arrows. I'm gonna make a build with 20 Fire Arrows which synergize the EA's from Raven Claw. So my Amazon will fire fully syngergized lvl 30 EA's
I just forwarded mine from 1.07 to 1.12a and it nukes most of the monsters
:thumbup::jig: (gonna socket it later with a Shael or IAS jewel to make it more faster Also combined on a Amazon you can reach a very high damage of exploding arrows. I'm gonna make a build with 20 Fire Arrows which synergize the EA's from Raven Claw. So my Amazon will fire fully syngergized lvl 30 EA's
stephan
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
Unless you have two, don't do that. It brings up the level requirement by quite a few levels. Not a good twinking weapon anymore then.I just forwarded mine from 1.07 to 1.12a and it nukes most of the monsters
purplelocust
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
Having multiple old Raven Claws is great- socketing with a Shael is good, and I also have one socketed with a Nef which is good for safety and levelling in Cows. Nef doesn't increase the level requirement, but as mentioned, Shael does (to 29)
Having multiple old Raven Claws is great- socketing with a Shael is good, and I also have one socketed with a Nef which is good for safety and levelling in Cows. Nef doesn't increase the level requirement, but as mentioned, Shael does (to 29)
Borje
Banned
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
Hmm.. I have been thinking about trying to get a 1.07 raven claw (since I've pretty much moved to SP) and is using 1.12 Raven Claw+Enchantress to get ~2k splash dmg at lvl 15 but then I just realized.. It only does 280 fire dmg.. Well, that's not to shabby seeing as you get it at lvl 15 but still using enchantress is kinda smooth too.. But a question arose: what stuff can you handle with this baby? /P 8 Tombs shouldn't be any problem, I suppose /P 8 Cows is fine too, how much futher can you take this? For how long can you twing with this weapon without losing efficiency? Thorugh the entire Norm? guess so..
hmm.. I can easily take my chars to lvl 40 with normal raven claw+enchant so I guess I'll stay with that since the 1.07 RCs I've seen has been traded for Mal in the SPTF and Mals are kinda valueable in SP =)
boy, not many questions just a whole lot of babbling =)
Hmm.. I have been thinking about trying to get a 1.07 raven claw (since I've pretty much moved to SP) and is using 1.12 Raven Claw+Enchantress to get ~2k splash dmg at lvl 15 but then I just realized.. It only does 280 fire dmg.. Well, that's not to shabby seeing as you get it at lvl 15 but still using enchantress is kinda smooth too.. But a question arose: what stuff can you handle with this baby? /P 8 Tombs shouldn't be any problem, I suppose /P 8 Cows is fine too, how much futher can you take this? For how long can you twing with this weapon without losing efficiency? Thorugh the entire Norm? guess so..
hmm.. I can easily take my chars to lvl 40 with normal raven claw+enchant so I guess I'll stay with that since the 1.07 RCs I've seen has been traded for Mal in the SPTF and Mals are kinda valueable in SP =)
boy, not many questions just a whole lot of babbling =)
purplelocust
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
@Borje: A serious enchant is much better than the old Raven Claws. The value in the old Raven Claws is that you don't need to have the hassle of an enchant (self-MPing in single player, for example.) So sticking with your Raven Claw + enchantress method is a good one.
@Borje: A serious enchant is much better than the old Raven Claws. The value in the old Raven Claws is that you don't need to have the hassle of an enchant (self-MPing in single player, for example.) So sticking with your Raven Claw + enchantress method is a good one.
Rzymian_Lg
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Whats the deal with Raven claw?
For rushing through acts you can ask me to buff you with my enchantress (3k dmg and it lasts something around 12 minutes) you can compare it to ~300 splash dmg - Raven Claw
So why do not you try making a better char, which will take the full advantage of such combo.
Enchantress - with Fire mastery, enchant, warmth, frozen orb maxed
rest Cold mastery/ Mana shied/ Static Field
+1 chilling armor,
Ormus robes + 3 enchant (+Xmax Fire dmg) o Arkaine V. (+2 all skills)
Razortail - pierce (33)
Demon machine - pierce (66) or Kuko S. pierce (i think it was 50)
on Swap Eschuta's Temper + Lidless wall ( FO vs Fire immune)
or Widowmaker +X Guided Arrow skill
or Wand with Lower resist charges
Gloves - crafted with knock back
You will get 18k fire dmg per arrow (1.10v)
1.12 I think that it was something around 12k with 99% pierce. + knock back.
P8 pit runs - no problem
For rushing through acts you can ask me to buff you with my enchantress (3k dmg and it lasts something around 12 minutes) you can compare it to ~300 splash dmg - Raven Claw
So why do not you try making a better char, which will take the full advantage of such combo.
Enchantress - with Fire mastery, enchant, warmth, frozen orb maxed
rest Cold mastery/ Mana shied/ Static Field
+1 chilling armor,
Ormus robes + 3 enchant (+Xmax Fire dmg) o Arkaine V. (+2 all skills)
Razortail - pierce (33)
Demon machine - pierce (66) or Kuko S. pierce (i think it was 50)
on Swap Eschuta's Temper + Lidless wall ( FO vs Fire immune)
or Widowmaker +X Guided Arrow skill
or Wand with Lower resist charges
Gloves - crafted with knock back
You will get 18k fire dmg per arrow (1.10v)
1.12 I think that it was something around 12k with 99% pierce. + knock back.
P8 pit runs - no problem