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Whats the best possible defiance setup?

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by HandofElysium, Apr 5, 2004.

  1. HandofElysium

    HandofElysium IncGamers Member

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    Whats the best possible defiance setup?

    I'm thinking about making a defiance build with max dr or close to it.

    I'm thinking of

    Crown of Ages/Shako
    Etheral Valor/
    Verdungos
    Exile Shield or Etheral Herald
    IK gloves / Boots


    Any suggestions on the best possible defiance setup.
     
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    jumbo_SHRIMP IncGamers Member

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    vengeance or max synergy sacrifice(id go with vengeance)

    phelix
     
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    MeBrutox IncGamers Member

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    I did not have the exile runeword, so I did my defiance pally the old fashioned way. Maxing defiance, smite and holy shield (also added alot of points into lightning resists for the passive bonus..stupid gloams).

    If you can get to 95% crushing blow, you can do very well, pvm. He can actually do baal runs at level 78 quicker then my 92 hammerdin. Heck, even the conviction/extra stong or fanaciscm/extra strong List and his minions are a push over..on players 8.

    However I do not do pvp, so I can not tell you how good he does there. For my equipment, it was substandard really..I did have a shako and sacred stone armor, but beyond the 95% crushing blow, nothing special.
     
  4. ARK

    ARK IncGamers Member

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    I havent played in a while so Im not sure how much def the eth Valor gets but my stone runeword sacred armor has 2250 def. I would suggest using it myself.
     
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    Madmartagan2002 IncGamers Member

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    Defience Armour

    What about Levithian- around 1600 defence, 25% DR and +50 to Str?
     
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    Madmartagan2002 IncGamers Member

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    Another note

    Levithian is also Indestructable, so I suppose you'd want etherel. (requires 174 str to equip to, so might save stat points over sacred armour)
     
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    HandofElysium IncGamers Member

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    Thanks for the input guys but I'm thinking of building defiance not for pvm but for pvp. Experimental fun build relying on huge defense and using like a malice runeword War Axe/Zerker for 100 Open wound for damage. Sorta my pally version of WW openwounds assasin.
     
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    HandofElysium IncGamers Member

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    I have an etheral valor that has 2090 defense and so I like that better cause of life/skill/fhr mods.
     
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    strength_honor Banned

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    KingSlayer is good enough for % of Open Wound...

    Kingslayer PhaseBlade !
     
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    Soepgroente IncGamers Member

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    Since it's indestructible it can't be ethereal.......
     
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    HandofElysium IncGamers Member

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    I don't know about that.. Open wounds relys on just a hit not on how many times I hit them. Thats what makes ww sin with open wounds deadly. They don't need to hit that often and thats a good thing because the AR stinks to begin with. I don't think I'm going to need the 6fps in this case and more important to the range. Although I'd probably go with scourge or flail which is a little faster with same range as war axe/zerk
     
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    Madmartagan2002 IncGamers Member

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    Huh? I've found indestructable etherel items before- that's the whole reason you want to find etherel- you get the defence bonus and don't need to repair.
     
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    Soepgroente IncGamers Member

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    Only two uniques that are indestructible can be found ethereal. They always spawn ethereal. It's an elite claw and an elite axe i think. Think about it, ever heard of ethereal stormshield or gf?

    You can find items ethereal with self-repair though, like skullders ire. Those are great :)
     
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    if you can get >40k defense, you can completely ignore blocking, putting more points in life

    thats my opinion

    phelix
     
  15. ARK

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    Fhr mod is only 30% on Valor. Stone has 60%. So the only good thing then is the life and skill. Here are the rest of the stats on Stone.

    +60% Faster Hit Recovery
    +250-290% Enhanced Defense (varies)
    +300 Defense Vs. Missile
    +16 To Strength
    +16 To Vitality
    +10 To Energy
    All Resistances +15
    Level 16 Molten Boulder (80 Charges)
    Level 16 Clay Golem (16 Charges)
     
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    HandofElysium IncGamers Member

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    Etheral Valor still better. Sacred Armor stone req how much strength?
     
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    i thought 231 but i'm not sure.
    and i would also take stone instead of ark !
     
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    How did I know you would say that. :scratch:

    Still it has more defense than the Valor. Isnt this character about getting the most def possible? I think more def on the armor probably equals more total def than +skills would add from a Valor.

     
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    HandofElysium IncGamers Member

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    I'm not wasting that many stats just to wear that even with plus strength gear. Those points can be used for life and it's a nice balance of life and defense. I mean 155 strength req for etheral valor and 231 strength from Sacred Armor? I'd take the 76 stats overs the extra 200 defense there is just no doubt in my mind about that.
     
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    Ok, first and foremost, I think that this build is very expensive. Having experienced it first hand, if you can have enough DR as well as high *** defense, then it's gg, My problem was that I couldn't get the right gear in order to hit my desired DR+stats(only reason I made they guy was for a screenie) I have a text file I can send you some time if you like, it goes over a variety of gear, most of which is exactly what I use :). Since I cannot stop you from making this build, I would like to help you, infact I am hoping you are rich enough to take your paladin past what mine has reached (66,000 defense with the most expensive items I could afford) . . .

    If you are rich enough, I am 99% positive you can hit 80,000+ defense . . .

    No, I will not post it here (even though it's quite obvious what I use . . .), so if you're interested let me know . . .

    EDIT: Exile is necessary because having 66k defense is already not as helpful as you may think, so an ethreal HoZ is pointless, if you go with HoZ, u might as well save your zod and use a non-ethreal one. Your arkaine's is very nice, I want it, if you ever get rid of it, let me know!! Say no to Shako . . .

    EDIT: Keep in mind I'm talking about a zealot . . .

    EDIT: Charms will make or break any paladin, keep that in mind . . .

    EDIT: A Non-BM paladin setup is of course different . . .
     

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