whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
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sevencreature
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Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
Lionheart would be nice armor, but has one annoying drawback - complete lack of %ED. Which is the main reason I think Duress is better (even with lower resists). In fact, I even prefer Duriel's Shell to Lionheart :-/ Probably would rather spend runes on upping DS than making Lionheart I think.
Lionheart would be nice armor, but has one annoying drawback - complete lack of %ED. Which is the main reason I think Duress is better (even with lower resists). In fact, I even prefer Duriel's Shell to Lionheart :-/ Probably would rather spend runes on upping DS than making Lionheart I think.
mackscynox
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Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
stone runeword, shael + um + pul + lum
has bonus stats, res, max %290 Edef, %60 fhr and a clay golem for fun
didnot try it cause looks like a merc armor
but personally i would use duress
stone runeword, shael + um + pul + lum
has bonus stats, res, max %290 Edef, %60 fhr and a clay golem for fun
didnot try it cause looks like a merc armor
but personally i would use duress
sevencreature
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Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
And Duress is also cheaper.
And Duress is also cheaper.
Doctor Clock
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Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
For PvM melee armors, it usually comes down to Duress or Lionheart for me. If you have enough resistances as it is, stick with Duress. If your resistances are hurting, I'd say Lionheart. The difference in defence is a few % chance more of being hit, which is nearly negligible.
For PvM melee armors, it usually comes down to Duress or Lionheart for me. If you have enough resistances as it is, stick with Duress. If your resistances are hurting, I'd say Lionheart. The difference in defence is a few % chance more of being hit, which is nearly negligible.
Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
I use guardian angel because of its +1 skills, bonus to blocking and extra to max resists, but I'm not entirely sure how much of a difference having resists of 90 makes as opposed to 75. It feels worth it to me but I've yet to encounter a truly nasty pack of gloams to test it out in the field.
I use guardian angel because of its +1 skills, bonus to blocking and extra to max resists, but I'm not entirely sure how much of a difference having resists of 90 makes as opposed to 75. It feels worth it to me but I've yet to encounter a truly nasty pack of gloams to test it out in the field.
mackscynox
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Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
u wont have problems with %90 res, i dont have any even with %75. just kill them quickly.
gangel needs more strength even it is exceptional and when u upg it shall require more (196). a light (low str req) body armor with duress, lionheart , or stone shall have much more def from gangel and low str req.
more str points = less vitality = less life. if u can afford str from other items, no problem.
i just regret putting too many points to str for to be able to wear gangle at lvl 45 , at early levels helps alot. but i made a such mistake so ended up with 1300life and 230+ str fullgeared at lvl 89. so restarted a new smiter/zealot build hehe
u wont have problems with %90 res, i dont have any even with %75. just kill them quickly.
gangel needs more strength even it is exceptional and when u upg it shall require more (196). a light (low str req) body armor with duress, lionheart , or stone shall have much more def from gangel and low str req.
more str points = less vitality = less life. if u can afford str from other items, no problem.
i just regret putting too many points to str for to be able to wear gangle at lvl 45 , at early levels helps alot. but i made a such mistake so ended up with 1300life and 230+ str fullgeared at lvl 89. so restarted a new smiter/zealot build hehe
Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
Besides Lionheart I am a big fan of the good old Shaft. Upped it has a str requirement of "only" 158. It can have more than 1600 def and has the terrific 30% damred. The lack of res can be compensated a bit with a socketed 15 res jewel.
I tested different armors in a simulated 8-player-game and in the end I were convinced using the Shaft.
But it depends on the other gear and on the player's wealth. In cbent I'll be happy wearing a Lionheart, hehe.
Besides Lionheart I am a big fan of the good old Shaft. Upped it has a str requirement of "only" 158. It can have more than 1600 def and has the terrific 30% damred. The lack of res can be compensated a bit with a socketed 15 res jewel.
I tested different armors in a simulated 8-player-game and in the end I were convinced using the Shaft.
But it depends on the other gear and on the player's wealth. In cbent I'll be happy wearing a Lionheart, hehe.
zrk
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If youre looking for an armor that would keep you alive then the answer is
Prudence, END OF STORY, period. No other legit armor comes close except for a very lucky rare armor. Nothing else combines an insane amount of defense with a good hit recovery and resist bonus. Sure, it has no damage reduction, but it wont be necessary with a high level holy shield.
Other armors have better offensive bonuses, but for pure survival, there is no comparison.
Guardian angel's max resists are nice, but only necessary against a handful of rare monsters. Treachery is awesome, but lacks in the crucial defense department. Duress has great offensive bonuses, but falls low on the defensive side. Shaft is great for its damage reduction, but has no hit recovery and bad defense (and requirements when upped). Gloom is great but lacks defense. Lionheart plain old blows(no offense) Stone is perhaps the best of the rest, but its hit recovery and stat bonus isnt worth having ~1000 less defense.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/732/lewt12377xy9.jpg
If youre looking for an armor that would keep you alive then the answer is
Prudence, END OF STORY, period. No other legit armor comes close except for a very lucky rare armor. Nothing else combines an insane amount of defense with a good hit recovery and resist bonus. Sure, it has no damage reduction, but it wont be necessary with a high level holy shield.
Other armors have better offensive bonuses, but for pure survival, there is no comparison.
Guardian angel's max resists are nice, but only necessary against a handful of rare monsters. Treachery is awesome, but lacks in the crucial defense department. Duress has great offensive bonuses, but falls low on the defensive side. Shaft is great for its damage reduction, but has no hit recovery and bad defense (and requirements when upped). Gloom is great but lacks defense. Lionheart plain old blows(no offense) Stone is perhaps the best of the rest, but its hit recovery and stat bonus isnt worth having ~1000 less defense.
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Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
I also see what you mean about the excessive strength needed but I wonder how many points in dexterity you save by having the extra 20% blocking chance? That would soften the blow a little at least.
I did much the same so I've only got 1200 or so life even with a few small charms boosting it up. :whistling:
I also see what you mean about the excessive strength needed but I wonder how many points in dexterity you save by having the extra 20% blocking chance? That would soften the blow a little at least.
mackscynox
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Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
with fully geared shall have ~160str, ~130dex, ~400+ vit.
also when i think of my current ladder charms , many have +dex and +str mods with others. so i can reduce the 68str, 63 dex req and invest more on vit. that is why i RESTART a new uber smiter/zealot char.
yes fort is best but it has a high rune in it. so not cheap
i made my char in single player and what i shall gear at lvl 82 excluding 1 ring slot [shall be a dualleach maybe wit some stat] (my min lvl to uber). i only need base 68 str , 63 dex and all rest can go to vit. also i should state that not all my items are perfect (such as ravenfrost 17dex). still have 75 max block with holy shield. at that lvl without charms (except anni and torch) can have 1600 life easily. Add charms there and if rich can rise to 2k.Nullvoid said:
with fully geared shall have ~160str, ~130dex, ~400+ vit.
also
when i think of my current ladder charms , many have +dex and +str mods with others. so i can reduce the 68str, 63 dex req and invest more on vit. that is why i RESTART a new uber smiter/zealot char. 
guface
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Re: whats the best non high rune armor for a zealer?
Strongly disagree there - 75% block with say defense for 15% hit vs 75% block and 95% hit is a huge difference. You're looking at 75% vs 96% damage reduction. Thats 6-7 fold damage reduction. I dont know how anyone can say thats not worth it. And also, not sure if I can prove this, but just because you have max block does not mean everything will be 75% block. Swarmed attacks can bypass block iirc if faster block rate isnt good enough.