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What type is the best in hell?

Discussion in 'Assassin' started by Areshoro, Mar 13, 2004.

  1. Areshoro

    Areshoro IncGamers Member

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    What type is the best in hell?

    Hi ppl
    I started my assa for the first time in HC and just wonder what build would u recommend to survive in hell?

    Are traps making any good damage in hell?


    thnx :worship:
     
  2. tl998

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    *Shameless Plug*

    Read about my trapper variant called the GHOST at http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=145293

    It is a full-fledged guide, and I think almost guarantees survival if you play smart. I played mine in softcore but I haven't died once.
     
  3. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho IncGamers Member

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    If you want to make a close combat sin, the Dracul's Grasp gloves is a life saver.
     
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    That's assuming you HAVE one of those things. Not everyone has a pair. I've never seen one myself.
     
  5. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho IncGamers Member

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    I didn't say that it's easy to have one, nor did I was assuming he had one, but I just made a statement saying that Dracul's Grasp are really good gloves for close combat sin... it was a notice, a 'i just allow myself to say a word about sth', you see ????
    I won't say someone does not know how to play because he has no Dracul ...
     
  6. Areshoro

    Areshoro IncGamers Member

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    thnx a lot ppl for ur replies

    but not going deep into details - what is better combat or trap?
    and major skills?

    thnx again ;)
    :worship:
     
  7. tl998

    tl998 Banned

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    Depends on what you mean by better.
     
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    det IncGamers Member

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    Safe? Traps win hands down IMHO

    20 LS
    20 DS (also a Synergy for LS and WoI)
    20 WOI if you want a second elemental source - if you go pure lightning out those points into CBS
    17+ SM
    1 MB
    1+ BoS
    1+ Fade

    That's about 80 points, plus a few prereqs. You will be finished with this build much faster if you use only lightning traps and put points into CBS last. Might run into the odd LI problem, which oftnen can be solved with a LR wand.

    Merc who can tank (e.g HF)
     
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    Holy Freeze bad...corpse shatter which means less corpses for DS to work on!
     
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    Areshoro IncGamers Member

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    simply, will i survive with combat only in hell?

    :worship:
     
  11. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho IncGamers Member

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    Survival in close combat in hell needs a lot more awareness than with a trapsin.
     
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    but do traps do any dmg? all monster got immuns... ;(
     
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    Imo pure lightning trap assa suffers much needed versatility in hell where LIs presents behind every corner. At least my sorc isnt doing ok alone in hell act2 :|

    Going hybrid traps+MA is what I recomend. Try look those stickyed posts above for a build.

    And gl :)
     
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    thnx all!

    :worship:
     
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    Friend of mine has brought a Lightning traps only sin thru hell (okay..he has great equipment) and a HF merc works on my sin. That said, she is a DT/Traps hybrid..and also past Hell Ancients.

    All builds can survive, all builds can easily die by a Conviction/Fana/Might/LE/FE whatever bad bosspack.

    If you have zero items and need a safe build..that was the one I was trying to suggest :)
     
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    If someone is having zero items and needs safe build, go to necro forum look for a skellymancer build ;)
     
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    My Ghost build will work just fine for safeness thank you very much. Remember I wrote my guide with the poor people in mind.

    BTW Det, I met Fanaticism, LE Stygian doll poss back in the Worldstone keep backed up by a full platoon of Oblivion mages in Hell difficulty. I didn't die. My most expensive piece of equipment? A skin of the Vipermagi.
     
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    Well, for me OK = intensive use of BF ... I HATE IM (like any close-combat physical-dealing char I suppose :p)
     
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    :lol: yeah..but this guy was not only specifically looking for a sin build, we actively have to dissuade him to go full out MA

    @tl998 GZ...not many would have managed that. I know why I want a Vipermagi badly...and upgrade it...and UM it :lol:
     
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    Haha. My Vipermagi was unupgraded, and unsocketed. I didn't need the resistances because I was already maxed. That is the beauty of the Ghost. If you're willing to sacrifice some killing power, suddenly you find yourself being able to stay alive with the cheapest of equipment. Well, you have to play smart as well, but that's kind of a given if you want to not die at all.
     

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