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what makes orbs valuable?

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by HBeachBabe, Feb 29, 2004.

  1. HBeachBabe

    HBeachBabe IncGamers Member

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    what makes orbs valuable?

    I never plays sorcs, so I'm not sure what skills or mods on an orb are considered valuable. I tend to save the ones that max out the sell value though, so I have a stash full of unused orbs. I'd like to giveaway/tade them, but what are people looking for? note: these are all mid/low lvl (req. lvl 24-30).

    For instance, is this worth anything:
    Angel's Sacred Globe of the Magus
    One-Hand Damage: 4 to 12
    Durability: 16 of 16
    (Sorceress Only)
    Required Level: 24
    Orb Class - Fast Attack Speed
    Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
    Item Level: 43
    Fingerprint: 0x6fc3160e
    +12 to Mana
    +1 to Sorceress Skill Levels
    20% Faster Cast Rate
    +1 to Thunder Storm (Sorceress Only)
    +1 to Meteor (Sorceress Only)
    Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired)

    also, if wanted to just give this all away, do i list the complete stats like this in the giveaway thread? or should i just be selling these and not bother saving them at all?
     
  2. Crazy Runner Guy

    Crazy Runner Guy IncGamers Member

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    It not too bad for a clvl 24 character, especially untwinked and HC, but the Occulus us much better than nearly any orb you could realistically find, and it is easier to get, or at least trade for.

    NF may pipe in about this, as there was a thread very similar to this before the crash, only this person was talking about a +2 skills with +1 FO. NF commented that his HC sorc found lots of +2 skills orbs, and that the one the poster was asking about wasn't very good.

    In the end, it depends on your needs and wants. If you are playing untwinked, go for it, as the fast cast/+skill is great. I see this as a developing weapon, but no where near endgame capacity.

    hope this helps,
    crg
     
  3. farting bob

    farting bob Banned

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    well, it depends on the build, generally you want it to be for a main skill. skills from items dont count towards synergy points, onyl those points invested add to your main skill. so onyl use it if your main skill is recievig a bonus of +2 or +3. and +all skills helps alot, and is always preferred.
     
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    DMPI_Masher IncGamers Member

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    An example of a nice rare orb IMO would be something like this

    +2 to all skills
    % FCR
    Extra life and or mana
    + 2-3 to another main skill people tend to use like FO or Meteor
    low level requirements are also usefull. Only problem is I tend to find nice orbs with 58 lvl requirements where Occ is lvl 42 and has %50 MF as well.

    :spy: slaps forehead , upon further inspection of the Occ...those would be the stats that are of value to other ppl.

    I almost always end up selling them for the fat cash. I can collect a lot at one time as it dosn't take nearly as much room as an armor. Then spend it in Anya's gambling casino while quafing <----(thanks nethack)my fav :drink:
     
  5. Wraithswind

    Wraithswind IncGamers Member

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    When I play untwined sorcs, a lot of factors come into play. Surprisingly, you can get some nice resists off of orbs which can be a big help. Nice pluses to mana and energy are just gravy (that particular one is a little low). But the main element I look for are + to main attacks skills, and then it always depends on the type of build to determine what the worth.

    As for the % faster cast, for that level, I personally wouldn't find it very useful for an untwinked character since I'm usually hungrier for more mana, and if twinking, I'd probably have something better to use.

    If I had to line everthing as to what I though was more valuable for playing untwinked:

    1. + to skills
    2. + to mana/energy
    3. + to resists
    4. % FCR
     
  6. HBeachBabe

    HBeachBabe IncGamers Member

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    sounds like i'm in for a gold windfall as i should just be selling all these for cash
     
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    If you don't plan to play a Sorc, yes, sell them. Otherwise, make a Sorc plan. (Like in 1.10, a dual-skill Cold/Fire is viable, I think I've heard), and save the Orbs most suited to that build. Sell the rest.
    Tradewise, you'd have to come up with something VERY special to sparc any interest at all. IMO. But I don't trade.... :innocent:
     
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    Mordalles IncGamers Member

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    that was me. i'm still playing with that orb with my level 79 frozen orb/hydra hardcore sorc. i havent found anything better after 50 baal runs in nightmare with almost 300% mf. i found tal rasha's something eye, but my +2 all skills, +1 FO, +12 all resis, was still better.
     
  9. farting bob

    farting bob Banned

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    yes, its a meteorb (meteor + frozen orb) and its one of the most viable builds in 1.10 :lol:
     
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    The best orb I ever found was an Eagle Orb.

    +3 Cold Skills
    +3 Blizzard

    I muled the Occy I had just found.
     
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    Orbs would be more valuable if they were able to be runeworded like the staff leaf runeword but sadly Blizzard has not made this possible thus the uniques like the Occy are mostly the only ones worth keeping.

    Most sorcs need a lot of +skills for their builds. So if you find a rare with +x all skills and +x sorc skills and +2 or 3 other skills then that would be one worth keeping or trading.
     
  12. Wraithswind

    Wraithswind IncGamers Member

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    I had to stop playing to post this. I just imbued a Rod...

    +1 to Sorc Skills
    +1 to Energy Shield
    +2 to Fire Mastery
    +3 to Ice Mastery

    and the kicker is...it was with my Meteorb Sorc.

    So I guess my ultimate answer to this thread would be...yep, orbs are worth a lot :D
     
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    They are, but which is easier to get a hold of, occy or a really good rare.

    Nice imbue though, but IMO, Occy>every one handed sorc weapon.

    crg
     
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    Since I've never seen an Occy, but found this...I'm leaning towards the rare.
     
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    Crazy Runner Guy IncGamers Member

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    As would I in your situation, especially since you used your imbue, something I never take advantage of, to get it.

    crg
     
  16. Wraithswind

    Wraithswind IncGamers Member

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    Since I've started playing 1.10, I've tried to make it a good habit to always imbue class specific items whenever I can since I'm mainly aiming for + to skills which are a lot easier to come by in an imbue than the olden days of Classic and hoping to get some uber def or leech. Also, it guarantees 2 rare class specific items in each skill...which is great for an Amazon since you can at least control what one item will be (Anya always seems to give me an imbue I have no use for). It's still a pain in the butt for imbuing weapons for an Amazon or Assassin (at least for some that depend on weapon damage). But most the time, I get something that's at least useful in some situations...which usually spurns an urge to create a new build.

    Acutally, tonight turned out to be a decent night for item finding in general. 2 magic ammy's, one with +1 Cold Skills and the other with + 1 Fire Skills, and Skin of the Viper Magi which, along with the fire amulet, let me upgrade from the 3 part Angelic Set I was wearing.
     
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    If I was to make a sorc, if i even ever do that much, i would value orbs because they are one handed = shield. No need for resists on the orb when shield helps more, but as stated like 50 times earlier, good mods are like +2-3 all/sorc skills, plus a few to a main skill or something. Of course +mana/life is always good no matter what char you play.
     
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    Occy's are not too uncommon. NM Mephisto can drop them. They are good uniques as are any of the class specific uniques in that they can spawn with additional +skills up to 3 +1-3 skills. since Occy already has +3 all skills and serveral other stats with it making it really useful. you can get higher +skills on Orbs if you are extremely lucky for instance +2 sorc skills and +2 ice skills can occur together on a rare orb if you were to land one with +3 frozen orb as well that would be +7 frozen orb and +4 cold mastery on just your orb. But the likelyhood of this type of rare makes it easier to get thousands of Occy's before it drops.
     
  19. Wraithswind

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    Like I said earlier, I've never seen an Occy, and I did a fair amount of NM Meph running back in 1.09 with high MF, and during that time have found many good to great orbs, so luck is all relative. In the end its not about finding a perfect item but something good that you need (my imbued rod is great for my character, but far from what I'd call perfect). That, ultimately determines the worth of an item.
     

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