What is the going rate for a jah or ber?

Bigkilla

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What is the going rate for a jah or ber? I am dying to get enigma. Just curious what level of items I should be on the look out for to trade for one of these.


Thanks.
 

pharphis

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useful, rare items like Griffon's eye or pgems or sexy charms if you're in SC. If you're in HC good luck finding someone with jah/ber they're willing to trade (also HC trading is pretty dead atm)
 

Loot Skywalker

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Sad but true. There is a pricing guide stickied which will get you inside the ballpark when trying to ascertain the value of a ber rune, but remember that the guide is always aging (prices appear to be trending worse now), and
Is only a guide, so there is massive variance. Plus the guide is for SC. Like Pharphis said, HC trading is all but dead.

If you're playing 1.13d, your best best for those specific runes is to farm Trav. That is where I have found all of my ber runes and most of my jah's.
 

japanzaman

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I'd recommend just playing with a build that doesn't really need teleport like a Sorceress and just playing through the game. It seems like I can't go through a full clear without seeing some kind of HR or another.
 

Gripphon

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Runes, except Cham, are rather cheap compared to before when price guide was written. It mostly depends on personal evaluation of runes for each player. Same story is for other items as well. The point is, price guide can be very misleading and wont give you a hint on real prices of items today, only observing current trades can give you hint how are things valued today.

Runes you will easily obtain from wealthier players since they don't consider runes useful and value them rather cheaply. What you can expect to give for them is pgems, random skiller with life, random jewel, rare rings, cool boots, amulet etc... Anything character can use or for rerolling purposes.

Also, I calculated that LK is superior to Travincal at farming runes for Enigma, unless you have really godly character and wipe Travincal on p3 very fast. LK p7/8 3855 runs at average to farm Enigma, while in Travincal on p3 with 55% hork it takes 2586 runs at average to farm Enigma. Since LK is possible to run in 25 sec with a little practice, it means you have to run Travincal with mentioned barb inside 37 sec to have comparable time invested to farm Enigma, and, to my knowledge, there are only 3 confirmed Travincal ww barbs who can run inside 40 sec through longer period of time. Only other character who is candidate for efficient Travincal running is blizzard sorc, rest are considerably inferior to those. LK is both easier, safer and you farm pgems/charms/jewels faster. But is also more boring than Travincal.
 

Loot Skywalker

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Great info, Griff! I haven't timed my ww barb ... He isn't sub-40 second fast. In his defense. he is geared for both hc and goldfind. Maybe 60 seconds, or a little more, depending on auras. I've tried LK running but it's actually more boring than meph, if that is possible
 

Bigkilla

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So I found the below rare a while back.

Grim Brow Coronet
Item lvl 87
72 Defense
+2 to Druid Skill Lvl's
30% Faster Run/Walk
78% Enhanced Defense
+20 to Str
+18 to Dex

Do rares like this have good value? How well would it be rated on the cool scale? I am just trying to figure out what to stash in gomule. I am basically stashing just about everything but some items definitely catch my eye more then others. I did find a necro plus posion/bone skiller GC and am certainly hanging on to that and also have a mal and ist plus some elite uniques.

Also, I am currently running mausoleum on p8 to gain lvl's and because its a lvl 85 area. I am currently lvl 85 and trying to get to 90. I can't to travanical because I am an fc druid and it takes way to long to kill the FI's in the council. Trying to work on getting more CB, duress and a 6 socket PB. So for now I am stuck with LK though I don't mind it so much because I play to relax though I wouldn't mind being uber someday.

Does anyone know of a better area with no fire immunes then mausoleum? I red on all the lvl 85 areas but not to sure if any have no or very few FI's. I keep trying pits but FI's slow me to a near stand still. I do like fury but can't run it just yet. Need better resists and a bit higher gear though I do have buriza.
 

Loot Skywalker

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Sounds like you're doing quite well. There is a stickied pricecheck thread in the single player trading forum where you can inquire about the value of your rares. But remember that any item that can't hold its own against items it would be considered against (in a druid's case: jalal's, Cerberus, spirit keeper, raven lore) you may as well sell it to charsi.

You play 1.13d hc right? If you need a 6os pb, I have several... More than I need for sure. So I don't mind gifting one--just message me if you want it. Of course, I could do the same for aldur's full set... I have five of them with no Druids currently planned, and there isn't a huge market demand, or any market demand, nor a market for that matter. I also have jalal's, Cerberus and spirit keeper, available for pgems. I do have an extra jah but I'm not actively seeking to trade it, so I'm going to hang onto it, maybe see if someone wants it plus an item for a Cham.

FI's are hard to get away from. I don't have much druid experience and I'm sure someone else can give you
Much better advice. Best solution may be shockwave and a really over-powered merc.
 
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Zenigma

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I am leveling my fc bear powerhouse in the Maggot Lair. The far oasis doesn't have any natural FIs in it, and neither does the Lair. I also know that there are some places in Act 3, but I like running the Maggot Lair. Make sure you have a high ligh resist, and it's a pretty smooth ride. Any health I do lose is mitigated quite nicely by my Carrion Vine. Just one point with prebuffs is enough to leech all the health you would possibly need from the abundance of bodies you leave in your wake.

Something you can do to get a 6os pb, if nothing else, is to take a white one you find, and Larzuk it. But it looks like someone has an offer for you.

If you are playing hc, be aware of your surroundings, even in the Maggot Lair. Yhough it can often seem safe, because enemies are usually coming at you from one direction, it goes without saying that you can find yourself in sticky situations.
 

Bigkilla

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Loot Skywalker I appreciate the offer for the PB but I am on 1.13d softcore. I do currently have a 4 shael'ed PB but I feel it is still too slow especially when I use my chanceguards instead of my lava gouts. I figuer since I'm not having issues in mausoleum I can add the extra MF though goldwrap does help a bit with ias. As for the rare I linked "grim brow coronet" I actually find myself using that far more then my cerebus' bite because of the 30% frw. I have a hard time knowing what is useful and what isn't. Most elite uniques seem like junk to me like an ethereal edge that dropped that is actually ethereal too but still seems kinda worthless. I will check out some of those guides and see if I can learn a thing or two.

Zenigma I will have to check out the maggot lair. I like leveling in level 85 zones but I may be able to gain levels faster in act 3. I will have to look into 1 point in carrion vine and see if I like it. I seem to have more issues with mana then anything atm though they are not to bad and I am usually making a trip to my stash by the time I run out of potions. I think I will try to up my goldwrap too so I can get the 4th slot.
 

Zenigma

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For the record, Maggot Lair levels 1 and 2 are level 84 areas, and Maggot Lair level 3 is 85.
Hell cows is also doable with a fc bear; however, on high player levels, it's tough going, because they have so much health. My fc damage is currently averaging almost 7k, and cows on just /p3 take longer than I'd like. I definitely have room to improve my damage, though.
I only have 2 ss gcs, and I could make a CoH (currently using Smoke for that smexy all res and some fhr to boot), but I just need one more ber rune, and I can make an infinity, which I could use to great effect on several characters. I already melt non-FI packs on /p8, I can't wait to see what infinity's net gains would give me. Granted, I'd hate to lose insight, but even when my merc dies, the 4 fpa fc doesn't leave me high and dry for mana.
I'm not geared for mf, though. Just something to put out there. I like this character for fun, nothing more, in all honesty. If I were to ever seriously use him to find items, it would be for bases, not for mf, and likely not for bosses, though he really doesn't fare poorly against bosses. Anyways, good luck finding your groove.
 

Loot Skywalker

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Regarding the phase blade, hardcore items may be transferred into softcore, but not vice versa. So it's up to you if you want the pb. As for the rare, the most valuable rares are the ones you actually get some use from; so the item is quite excellent by that standard. Don't rely on me to tell you it's value--if you want a real price check maybe an old timer in the stickied thread will help you. Just don't get your hopes up... Without 2os or fcr added on to the frw, I can't imagine anyone paying more than a handful of pgems.
 
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