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What is the best BvB setup?

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Bestrafer, Nov 6, 2006.

  1. Bestrafer

    Bestrafer IncGamers Member

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    What is the best BvB setup?

    I think that it will be the best:
    Grief Zerk
    Storm with 40%ED/15max
    Arreat with 40%ED/15max
    Forti
    Vendugo
    Highlord or angelic
    2 ravens or angelic
    steelrend or drac
    goreriders
    any and many many small charms with life/AR/max dam

    Is angelic combo so good? With it we lost 37% DS. I think it is not good, but will ravens give us actual AR for BvB?
    And i m not sure with gloves. Steelrend or draculs. 60% ED, 10% CB or 25% OW and 10% LL. Without draculs we will have only 6% LL. Do we need much lich in duel?

    Help me to choose.
     
  2. jakotaco

    jakotaco IncGamers Member

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    Your setup seems to be a pure dmg setup, in bvb damage is sure good but don't forget a big part of bvb damage comes from open wounds. I'm not a bvb expert so don't take my word for anything of what I say now.

    Grief Zerk is a fine choise
    Arreat's is good, an alternative is Guillaume's.
    Forti is a nice piece of armor
    Verdungo good choise
    Raven/Highlord is fine, Angelic's might be needed at times depending on AR from charms.
    dracul's>Rend's because of OW and saves some str
    gores ofc
    scs, sure whatever you can afford!

    Now wait for someone who actually made a succesful bvb and can give some real advice... mine was never any good, neither in skills nor in equipment...
     
  3. Bestrafer

    Bestrafer IncGamers Member

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    Thanks for your answer. May be you are right, that draculs better because gave OW and save me 23 stat points, wicth i can put in vitality.
     
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    Dahmer IncGamers Member

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    ow and watch your opponent die without hitting him much ;)
    i made an open wounds bvb'er a while ago with some guidance from rikstaker and i can assure you, its great fun :D

    i'l go find setup i used :D

    *edit*
    i found most of what i used ^^ and its all fearly easy/cheap to get...except the charms ofcourse

    weapon :
    beast ba (main use of this weapon is the 25% open wounds and the lvl9 fana adding lot of ar, thx to rik for pointing that out a while back ^^)
    armor :
    armor duress archon (33% open wounds, fairly good defense boost and fairly cheap to make, could even make one in eth armor for the harder barbs battles :D and yes i know, it will eventually break but imagine your defense with 2361 defense armor :p)
    gloves :
    draculs, obvious, 25% open wounds and useful str boost

    rest you can most likely guess, it all comes down to having high ar, high ow and high defense, dont think too much about damage because most or your dmg will come from opponents bleeding to death

    ps :
    once again thx to rik ^^ (this enough credit mate? :p)
     
  5. Summerfun

    Summerfun IncGamers Member

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    A Pure OW barb can be REALLY good in BvB, but the problem is that it pretty
    bad vs all other.

    If you like me like dueling more than just BvB, the you might try a BvA.
    If you have the right gear i can still compet wit even the BEST BvBs.

    I my self use:

    Eth glitchet Arreats socket 40/9 dex
    Greif ba 398/40
    1668 def Fort AP
    1.08 storm socket 40/-15 req (1.11 storm is just as good, i just love the look)
    Draculs (much better than rends)
    Dungos
    1.08 wartravlers
    angelics for jewlery.

    I know it suck to loose DS from high lords, but you really do need angelics in BvB. even when i use 37* 32020 my are issent high enough to hit 50k+ def
    barbs.

    PS: never use 40/15 max jewels, they are bugged, you dont get the 40 ed only the 15max. search the forums for more info on this.

    Hope this helps :smiley:
     
  6. ToThePoint

    ToThePoint IncGamers Member

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    why would you use 08 wartravellers?
    they are basically 20run 10dex boots, even waterwalk are better.
    or is it to get more gold in pubbies? :)
     
  7. PheonixLeader

    PheonixLeader IncGamers Member

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    And don't forget that, except lifetap, you can't leech in duel.
     
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    Hehe, my mistake! i ofc meant 1.08 gores.
    Do goldfind even work in duels, or are you just pulling my leg?
     
  9. Bestrafer

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    if we use 2 angeling rings and amulet, i know we got very nice AR from 2 rings, but will we get +1 to all skills from amulet?
     
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    And please, Summerfun, tell me what is glitchet?
     
  11. Barloc

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    Funny, I didn't think we were supposed to discuss or suggest duped items in this forum. No one mentioned that Arreats when I posted about choices concerning that helm normal/eth/upped/eth-upped, I figured that was probably why...? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Also, wouldn't that SS just defeat the purpose of having lower str required helm and armour anyway, since its required str is pretty high witheven -15% in it?
    And the defense is typically lower. I get the "looks" thing but your probably the only one that can see it-right?



     
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    I don't think that BvB needs lower str requirement weapons/armour, as a base 150+ str is pretty common on BvB's.
    After that everyone can see you equipment.
     
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    By glitch he means to upgrade the arreat with the cube recipe i always forget..
     
  14. Barloc

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    Right, but it looks like the armour he's using would be better for throwing more points into vita for a different balance, but then using that ss would seem to defeat that purpose. With str so high you could probably equip a sacred fort in that case easy. I'm using Sacred fort but thats with a ebotdz and 113 base str and imperfect drac/anni/torch. Best case I guess strength-wise and swapping to Grief with perfect dracs/torch/anni would be a base of 131str (101 w/ebotdz ). That's figured with Sacred Fort and an Upped Arreats. So I think 150+ str is a bit high imo.
    Have to use Fal'd WC weapons tho maintain an upped arreats setup like that tho.



     
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    Thats not exactly true, a glitchet item is a item there where found (eth) and
    zodded before 1.10. That way you could remove the zod in 1.10 and put a new rune or jewel in it, and the item would still be indestructable!

    I dont considder this arreat to be a "bugged" or "hacked" item, since all i did to get it were to add a zod and remove a zod.
    Cant see how it can be my problem that Blizzard made a mistake.

    About the storm, it requires 187 str socket with 40/-15 req. thats 31 str more than a normal storm, but Aegis has better block % than a Monarc.
    all after all, normal storm is probberly a littel better, but i do love that 1.08.
    :tongue:
     
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    08 gores still doesn't match up to 09+ gore which has higher defense Ow and crushing blow at cost of 10max damage.
    always fun to have though
     
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    Just make sure you have the highest possible %'s in these catagories:
    Damage % Reduce - you have to hit the 50% if you want to bvb.
    Block % - you will die if it's not high (if not maxed)
    Life - Most of bvb is outlasting your opponent
    AR - If you can't hit, you will die.
    Weapon Speed - Hit the last ww bp whenever possible.
    Life Tap - If you don't consider this BM, you must use it ie. Dracs. If you do consider it bm (which i do), use Bloodfists for obvious reasons.
    Open Wounds - duhr
    Damage
    Defense

    If you do well in all these catagories, you'll probably win.
     
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    the better blocking only accounts for like 2 dex points, so thats hardly a benefit when your giving up 31 str. But yeah, it's a hell of a cool look tho and different, I think It would be better looking with a sword tho..:smiley:



    @SirBeetle-"Bloodfists for obvious reasons."
    I was just looking at those gloves, whats so great about those?



     
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    I think its a littel more than 2 dex at high lvls (more like 15)
    Anyway 1.09 IS better. But the again 31 added str is allso 31%ED....
    As for the looks, everything looks cooler with swords, atleast in my eyes!


    dont agree 100% with you.

    50%DR is a must
    Block MUST be 75% not just high, ONLY 75% works asuming you duel a barb with any skills.
    and regarding life, def, ar, phys dmg. IMO
    Def>Ar>Life>dmg
    WW dossent trigger life tap for draculs, most people just use those for OW and str.
    And i cant really see why you would use Bloodfists on a baba.
    you dont need the fhr in WW, well the 40 life is nice but...

    Summerfun
     
  20. Barloc

    Barloc IncGamers Member

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    actually I double checked that and I've been adding 2 dex everytime I lvl up now to go from 74% to 75%. Aegis is 2% higher then Monarch which basically
    equates to 4 dex less (not 2 as I had stated:badteeth: ).



     

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