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what is a ROBO weapon?

Discussion in 'Druid' started by bleuless, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. bleuless

    bleuless IncGamers Member

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    what is a ROBO weapon?

    i am guessing its a magical cruel with hopefully some sockets. i know you can try to cube it, but what can you expect out of making one?

    i mean what's a typical Robo look like with what socketed in them?

    at what point do i tell myself that this is good enough and stop cubing?

    what's the BEST theoritical possible Robo polearm? thanks.
     
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    alainpp66 IncGamers Member

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    A Robo weapon was actually a 1.09 Device. Outdated now.

    It was an ethereal Elite socketed with Jewels and runes to reach speed breakpoints and Decent damage with no need to repair.

    When cubing, you'd want a Cruel of Quickness... but even then it can't match the new uniques and rares.
     
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    best theoretical WAS Eth Superior 15% ed +3 ar Zod//4x 40//15 ohm Giant Threser (iirc)
     
  4. bleuless

    bleuless IncGamers Member

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    can you cube a none etherial into an etherial? i have a 600+ dmg bonehew, i know i can't afford a botd anytime soon, and i just wnat to know what else can i get that can top that. btw, i has to be a polearm and hopefully hit ww breakpoint (yes i am a barb, i ask on druid forum cuz i searched 'robo' and most results came up from druid forum) thanks. btw, my bonehew is socketed with a shael and a 15ias/7max, it hits the breakpoint for ww on bonehew and pretty much as high as you can go, unless i find a better 15/x jewel. thanks.
     
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    Best for who? Is that for a Barb? And is that 15% IAS or 15 Max damage?

    For a Werewolf the best theoretical would be Perfect Eth Superior Great Poleaxe with Zod, 5x 40/15 IAS. I think.
     
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    Bleuless, you can't cube a normal into an ethereal.

    And unfortunately for you, your polearm's missing 5%ias to reach the last Barb WW bp.

    You have 65%Ias on it with that shael/jewel, but you need 70%... that means it would take 2 Shaels.

    Just doing that would kick things up a notch... unfortunately that decent jewel is wasted.
     
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    bleuless IncGamers Member

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    so a robo has nothing to do with cubing something into cruel? i think i got them mixed up. :D
     
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    Ehem, perfect ethereal tomb reaver zod / 40 15 ias*2 or Lo*2
     
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    the bonehew has inherent 30% IAS to begin with, so i think i am over the break point. but i am not confident about this, cuz i think some base speed is off from battlenet (i have a rare colossus voulge that should be 'fast' speed according to battlenet, but on my screen it shows 'slow')
     
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    Trust me. I know it has 30%ias.. and that was included in my Numbers.

    Shael + Ias jewel + 30% = 65%.

    You need 70% total to reach the last Breakpoint.

    You've passed the first and second, but the last is the magic one.

    (The listed speed is written by char class... Has nothing to do with Base Speed which determines everything)

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    Edit:

    Leaving Original post up for humbling purposes.

    Allow me to explain my error to all those interested...

    B.Net has for the longest time listed an Ogre Axe Base Speed as 10, while it is indeed 0(Normal/Exceptional Versions are 10). I came across this long ago, but it slipped my mind on this one.

    Meaning Bleuless has indeed surpassed the last WW bp and I,ve just been smacked upside the head, leaving a nice little bleu of my own.
     
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    heh, yes, i made a goof up as well, i replied to another thread on this topic.

    back to topic, ROBO is no longer godly due to capped at 200% + 50%?
    i guess we can still do etherial cruel + 2 socket (1 zod 1 ED/IAS). but then it cost almost as much as botd if not more....
     
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    Which new unique/rare beats ccsoq 3*cough*blue*cough* jewels for the doggy? Just curious.
     
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    Take your normal 45% IAS 63 max 420 ed colossus sword and compare it to 60 ias ethereal 415 ed BoTD with 90 stats, dual leech etc. I know who wins there :yawn:
     
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    ccsoq=cruel criptic sword of quicness, 420 ed% 95 ias one hand. The beauty.

    anyway what im asking here is, there is any unique/rare/runeword new weapon 1 hand reaching 4fps with insane damage?

    Hope is more clear now

    Fer
     
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    Yea that cryptic is hard to beat for druids. But a rare phase/gris caddy looks very good as well. (450 ed 40 ias 2 socks phase reaches 4fpa right?)
     
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    I do not quite agree.

    The 1.10 Griswold's weapon is almost as good, if both are perfect. In some cases its even better (Lets say you used Gore Rider and Highlords for a total of 45% Deadly Strike):

    Caduceus: 37-43 damage (40 avg), perfect would be 240% + 3x 40% + Lo rune
    Cryptic Sword: 5-77 damage (41 avg), perfect would be 300% + 3x 40%


    Griswold's, (30% DS [HL] + 15% DS [GR] + 20% DS [Lo] = 65% DS):
    40 damage * (100% + 360%) * (100% + 65% DS) = 303.6 damage average


    CCSoQ, (30% DS [HL] + 15% DS [GR] = 45% DS):

    41 damage * (100% + 420%) * (100% + 45% DS) = 309,14 damage average


    Now, lets calculate this for a real druid. A real PvP WW has about 1000% ED total and lets say that he has +120 Max damage from charms. Take a look at this:

    Total damage (Perfect Griswold's):

    (40 damage * (100% + 360%) + 120 damage / 2) * 1000% ED * (100% + 65% DS) = 244 * 10 * 1,65 = 4026 damage average per hit.

    Total damage (Perfect CCSoQ):

    (41 damage * (100% + 420%) + 120 damage / 2) * 1000% ED * (100% + 45% DS) = 273.22 * 10 * 1,45 = 3961.4 damage average per hit.


    The prefect Griswold's Caduceus also beats the Perfect CCSoQ in these aspects:

    - Damage is way more steady
    - Less Str and Dex requirements
    - Its probably easier to find a such weapon on Europe where there are litterally no CCSoQs
    - The caddy is probably also cheaper to buy and the ED% doesn't vary that much, so you're more likely to get a good one.

    This is why I say 1.10 Griswolds is better than the CCSoQ.
     
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    Hee, forgot new gris has 4 sockets. Wolves are happy now, ya, the extra Lo beats criptic. What about a 2 handed one (compare with cgtoq 2 sockets back in 1.09). May be ethereal Tomb Reaver Zod +???what jewels/runes? How any ias ull need here.

    Fer
     
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    A eth tomb reaver at high % zod + 2 ed/ias jewels will hit4 frames do about 700-800 max and has great mods, resist, revive etc. I'm currently looking for one atm for leveling .... but they are impossible to find,(well with a decent %).
     
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