What do u think of this sc duelers response?

[Omikron8]

I love it when sc players come to hc ..most are so damn ez to pk.

That referring to me? You are making some baseless claim about me to get your jollies and try to prove your point?

edit - And this was back in 1.09 when drophacking hydra pkers were rampant. As soon as the pk entered your screen your game froze and you were good as dead, but i suppose you have some magical way of getting out of that (no i don't play in windowed mode).

 

[senji]

softcore players won't understand a hc player's mentality
@xxsteelxx go check out your thread in pvp i think its gone haywire haha

 

[Cleglaw_Himself]

This is a funny post.

Tell me this softies - why is it that when softies come to hc duel games, they laugh at me when I drink a full rejuv but then I find out they use chickenhack?

Why is drinking a pot bad? Its not a hack, its part of the game, so why is this bad. Because in softcore, it makes dueling obsolete. In hardcore, it keeps your character alive a bit longer.

Save and exit in hardcore means you have lost the duel and don't want to rebuild and gather charms again just yet; or a higher lvl has just hostiled while you're dueling. Its not chicken, its part of the game, it keeps you alive a bit longer.

Dueling in hc does not necessarily mean someone has to die in every fight. In hc, a duel means, let's fight and see who is better. It establishes some sort of pecking order. Sometimes this results in an ear falling. That's great, but it doesn't always have to. In these days of chickenhack, it can mean you win if you make the chickener leave.

Obviously sc has its 'godly' duelers, but the reason they don't want to come to hc is because there actually might be someone better than them and they might actually die! Losing all their equipment (and sc chars only seem to duel when they have the best possible equipment) and charms is just too much.

I've also noticed that softies who do play hc always join low dueling games with a high lvl char.

Basically it boils down to this:
In softcore dueling, no one really cares who is better than who. But it also has its good bits - you can use varied and unusual builds rather than just max dmg/life ones.
In hardcore dueling, its fun, it can be final, its usually short and sweet - no stupidly running around waiting for poison to slowly kill you when you have an antidote in your belt, ppl can get reputations fast, and they stick (whether it be because they are good, or because they are a known chickenhacker), and because the satisfaction of killing chickenhackers is just indescribable.

 

[senji]

That referring to me? You are making some baseless claim about me to get your jollies and try to prove your point?

edit - And this was back in 1.09 when drophacking hydra pkers were rampant. As soon as the pk entered your screen your game froze and you were good as dead, but i suppose you have some magical way of getting out of that (no i don't play in windowed mode).

thats why you get call a newblet because you never thought possible that hacks + skills can kill you instantly seriously think befor you click that hardcore box

 

[Balrog431]

It seems like you are the one that started this in the first place by acting like your special or something.

Thats one thing I dont like about Hc'ers is their "Holier than thou" attitude.

On my experience on B.net both SC and HC , the Hc'ers always say the same thing.

"Uhh why are you in sc??" "dude sc is for noobers" "uh doh- uh why are you playing Sc? whats the pointer er a duh"?

Its almost always the HCers that start these conversations.

If they playing in Sc which I have done its because they dont feel the need to play Hc its as simple as that, their is no magic secret. If you feel like playing Hc which I also have then its becase thats just the way it is. Whats with this holier than thou bs?

Running to town in Sc because you dont want to get owned? So what? Maybe he doesnt want to get naked killed, a common thing in public Sc duels.

Always finding excuses to why you "think" hc is better than sc thats what it all boils down to when these conversations end up to, and that is more pointless than some so called "noobler" running to town.

honor in fighting 2 pixel characters in a computer? lmao maybe if your smoking weed and dwell into fantasy land, oooookkkkkkkkk.....

In the end the game is suppose to be fun, NOT because someone is a noob because he/she is playing hc or sc.

 

[Phyrexial]

Here's an example of why SC players get annoyed with certain HC players:

- xxsteelxx brags about a little PKing run he had killing normal baal runners in SC with a 39 charger. He even referred to himself as 1337 PK. :lol: Just a side note there.
- I asked what difficulty he was PKing in, because I felt 39 was rather high if he was in normal. He didn't answer my question directly, but instead answered with the following.
- xxsteelxx: "I was pkin in baals...and then i killed some lvl 12s in act 1 because i wanted to piss off sc noobs."

Hence I assume he was in normal. Its things like that last statement there that gets under SC player's skin, hopefully you HC players will understand some of our animousity in that thread.

Here's the thread if anyone wants to take a look: http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=229031&page=4

The posts of interest that I was quoting from are 67 and 74.

 

[sohcan]

Play what you like, but hc and sc, be it dueling or even just good old pvm, are two different games.

Hc is like Sc, it's not for everyone. What's the major difference? The major difference can only be experienced when you have your first big loss, that first death where you have truly lost something you have put so much effort into, be it your meph runner or dueler. Until you experience that death you don't know hardcore. You pause, perhaps curse, your spirits drop, then you pick yourself up and rebuild. The loss through the death of the character and kissing your hard-earned gear goodbye is the heart of the difference, it's gone and it isn't coming back. That type of gaming isn't for everyone and that is fine, but you simply can't compare the two the way people have been in this thread.

Any nonsense about playing the same style in both or using the same rules, standards and so on is just a farce. Don't want to lose your characters? Don't play hardcore. Don't want to have death just be a minor inconvenience costing a bit of gold? Don't play softcore. The same can be said about dueling ettiquete, what is considered bad manners in one might be acceptable in the other, get over it. Staying alive by legit means is all that matters in terms of honour in the hc world. Fluxing, using potions etc are part of the game in hc and are skills, ones that might be bad manners in sc, but hey hey sunshine this isn't sc.

Facing that death, accepting it, and running on the knife edge between victory and total defeat if you make that one mistake... that's hardcore.

 

[xxsteelxx]

ya i pked a bunch of players in norm baal runs and then i nk them over and over...it was kinda fun watching them swear at me and keep tryin to get there body..ill get a screenie next time.

*btw calling myself the l33t pk i was kinda jokeing around a bit lol.

 

[xxsteelxx]

oh.....and then someone came in with a 80+ tals set orb sorc w/ ss , and said how she was gonna own me cause i was such a noob. She stepped out ...i tanked a orb and 2 hit ko her. She calls me lucky and walks back out and i 1 hit ko her and take her gold 39>80+ must be kinda embaressing especially when her gear wasnt that bad

 

[Arb]

oh.....and then someone came in with a 80+ tals set orb sorc w/ ss , and said how she was gonna own me cause i was such a noob. She stepped out ...i tanked a orb and 2 hit ko her. She calls me lucky and walks back out and i 1 hit ko her and take her gold 39>80+ must be kinda embaressing especially when her gear wasnt that bad

No one cares about pks in SC.

In my experience (just like Willl has his), SC duelers are overall more skilled than HC. Just what I see.

 

[CreLuSioN]

More skilled? Its just how u look u need alot differend skills in hc then in sc.

 

[HR-Tecira]

Well I will say that the sc ppl can get much more practice with a build than you typically can in HC since they just have to pick up their body and try again instead of rebuilding and sometimes regathering gear as in HC.

I will never agree with the SC duelers that come to HC and start bitching about juve use in HC dueling. That is my biggest pet peeve about the occasional interaction between SC and HC. It was especially funny in one game where I juved and then made the previous SC dueler chicken and then he came back and bitched at me for using a juve. When I pointed out that he was using chicken he started in on some BS about chicken being more acceptible than juve use. I could not believe someone say using a hack to save their life was some how dueling more legit than using juves.

 

[HelzCaretaker]

Anyone that has been on softcore and comes over to hardcore and goes into a dueling game thinks they are so godly. They are the lvl 1's or 20's or w/e that are like you 2 go duel I wanna see some death blah blah blah. Yet they won't ever duel themselves they're always oh I'm just here to watch and they are the loudest most abnoxious people you can find, squelch happens to fall onto them ever so swiftly. Anyways they generally like to get high lvls to duel or say come onto sc I'll own your *** more blah blah BLAH. Basically the thing is I've dueled people with the no pots rule and who pots or leaves THEY DO. More often then not sc duelers should stay on sc or learn to duel in hc before talking trash. I'm not saying sc duelers are noobs or anything there can be some very good duelers there. But the thing is when everyone has enigmas hotos botd etc. who can't be a "godly dueler"? And to most of the ppl that "duel" on hc I tell their whiny asses to go back to sc since they say pots are so wrong BUT CHICKEN is fine. Whats funnier are the people that laugh at my ik barb and are too scared to fight him so sad how hardly anyone backs up their mouth.

 

[HCTwinJava]

SC duelers tend to be more skill based, because they duel regardless how their chars are equiped. Surely, if they want to win most of the time, they have to find an optimal gear and skill combination.

HC duelers tend to be more item based, because they don't want to die even once so they need the very "best" items they have, to make up for their chars' deficiencies. When a HC dueler says my 3x char can do 1K pvp dmg and have 1K life, blah, blah, it's not just about skills.

SC dueling is fun to every1 who likes it.

HC dueling can be pain to some, because it takes time and energy (and perhaps even money) to "correct" any mistake one makes in HC dueling.

It also appears to be that many HC duelers are really "good" chicken users.