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What char is best to beat hell solo untwinked?

Discussion in 'Hardcore' started by Garbad_the_Weak, Mar 30, 2005.

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  1. Garbad_the_Weak

    Garbad_the_Weak IncGamers Member

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    What char is best to beat hell solo untwinked?

    Thanks,

    Garbad
     
  2. ADSL

    ADSL IncGamers Member

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    It has to be a summonnecro, no other build is even close.
     
  3. HAMC8112

    HAMC8112 IncGamers Member

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    I second that ADSL guy. :D
     
  4. drinkturps

    drinkturps IncGamers Member

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    Summon Necro. Don't need uber gear either.

    Got beaten to it!

    *Looks up.*
     
  5. Aerath

    Aerath IncGamers Member

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    Summon Necro
    Trapper is a close second in my opinion (everything she needs can be bought in act V NM).
     
  6. happyfamine

    happyfamine IncGamers Member

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    summon necro and trapper may be easier, but i find the frost zealot to be a lot more fun.
     
  7. ADSL

    ADSL IncGamers Member

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    There is plenty of chars more fun than those, But that wasnt the question.
     
  8. Garbad_the_Weak

    Garbad_the_Weak IncGamers Member

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    Well, I ask because I am putting together a 3 man team to beat hell untwinked. We had a javazon, a fire trapper, and a frost zealot. Things were pretty easy but we bumped into a bad pack in nm a3 and 2 of us died.

    We are thinking

    summon nec
    fanatic zealot
    hammerdin/fire sorc

    Any ideas on a fun and effective team? My char has to be melee (casters are nt) but the other 2 are flexible.

    Garbad
     
  9. ADSL

    ADSL IncGamers Member

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    basicly i would prefer:

    barb, conc/ww
    summon necro
    hammerdin.
     
  10. Chiller_babe

    Chiller_babe IncGamers Member

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    Got to say that looks like a goodie ADSL.

    Could go with druid/barb/necro for massive safety overkill, bur with hammerdin kill rate will be much better.

    Chill
     
  11. MoUsE_WiZ

    MoUsE_WiZ IncGamers Member

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    I voted trapsin because:
    summon necro -> boring
    boring -> not fun to play
    not fun to play -> playing feels like work
    playing feels like work -> hard to get the nerve up to play
    hard to get the nerve up to play -> hard to play
    hard to play != easy to play through hell
     
  12. Aerath

    Aerath IncGamers Member

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    Three Players untwinked ?

    If you allow multiple countess runs:

    Bone Necro (White Wand just might be possible)
    Any paladin with Conviction
    Meteorb

    Get yourself an Insight and no more mana problems.

    Could substitute the Bone Necro for a Lightning Trapper or LF Zon.
     
  13. CookiesnCream

    CookiesnCream IncGamers Member

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    For a three man team, I'd make

    Summon Necro
    Conc Barb
    Cold Sorc
     
  14. PhatTrumpet

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    Why does everyone choose a Conc or WW Barb over a Wind Druid? Is an extra +1 skills really going to help everyone that much? Is the added mana and defense all that crucial when you can just throw an 'Insight' Polearm on a Defiance Merc?

    Wind Druids can actually kill untwinked, they don't have to worry one bit about resists due to Cyclone Armor (can give good resists gear to the other two party members), and they can even summon a few capable meat shields.

    And how much easier is it to equip a spellcaster untwinked? 'Lore', 'Spirit', 'Stealth'... what are the chances you'll find a nice melee weapon for your Barb?
     
  15. ADSL

    ADSL IncGamers Member

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    He said he wanted to play a melee char.
     
  16. Bullet-Tooth Tony

    Bullet-Tooth Tony IncGamers Member

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    What exactly does the word "best" mean? Easiest? Fastest? Safest? Less dependent on good items?
    Well, fastest can be pretty unsafe in the same time.
    Sumoner is safe, but not as fast, as, for example, a Hammerdin.
    You can depend on good items, but in the same time you still can do some MF'ing yourself and find something good. You can be a melee build and occasionaly find a cruel weapon with 40 IAS, and this will pretty much fix the item problem.
    And also:
    if the question is about THREE characters playing together, it becomes completely different from if it was meant for a single character.
    My opinion for a good HC untwinked team:
    1) Full-LF Javazon. She doesn't need a second type of damage, because of the party. Valkyre and Decoy are good "meat shields" for party. She needs Titans though... But I think rare +2 javelins will do the job.
    2) Sorceress. Probably Meteor or Blizzard.
    3) An Avenger. With Conviction the first 2 chars will do insane damage.
     
  17. HAMC8112

    HAMC8112 IncGamers Member

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    Tell me Mouse, do you get paid aswell?
     
  18. MoUsE_WiZ

    MoUsE_WiZ IncGamers Member

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    Who doesn't?
    This forum is filled with people who bot to earn a bit of cash on the side, isn't it?
     
  19. AzaZaz

    AzaZaz IncGamers Member

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    Hammerdin
    Summon Nec
    Ele Druid


    Summon nec + oak = tank
    nec + auras = dmg
    Ele + hammers = killers untwinked


    its a walking team, but its a safe team that will clear the area of bad guys
     
  20. Aerath

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    She could make do with a Cracked Jav...
    Only thing you'd really want is a Dense Replenish pack.
    Everything else is gravy - including skill points or leech.
     

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