What can Baal drop over Diablo?

Lyndis

Diabloii.Net Member
What can Baal drop over Diablo?

What uniques and Sets can Hell Baal drop that Diablo can't drop? It's faster for me to run Big D than Baal, and I want to know if I should stick with Baal.
 

Suiling

Banned
I guess both of them are lvl 99 monsters so can drop any items in the game. Maybe from Cathan's Seal Ring to Windforce Hydra Bow.
 

Lyndis

Diabloii.Net Member
I know that's not true. I'm pretty sure Natayla's Mark and Mavina's diadem can't be dropped by Diablo.
 

kuafu

Diabloii.Net Member
Diablo drops up to TC84, baal up to TC87, so diablo cannot drop any of the TC87 items (griffon, coa, tyrael, mang song, windforce, death cleaver, etc.) Baal can drop anything (except special items like anni, torch, etc.) in the game. You can find a complete list of all TC87 items here.
Also note, even though Diablo cannot drop everything, Chaos Sanctuary is a lvl85 area, so champions and bosses there *can* drop everything that baal can drop.
 

ffejrxx

Diabloii.Net Member
hell diablo is lvl 94
hell baal is lvl 99

rare and magic items above lvl 94 wont drop on diablo but can on baal

for sets baal can drop grizwald (diablo can drop griz heart), nat's mark, bk swords, mav's helm, ik armor

for uniques
Astreon's Iron Ward, Crown of Ages, Darkforce Spawn, Death Cleaver, Death's Fathom, Death's Web, Earth Shifter, Executioner's Justice, Gargoyle's Bite, Ghostflame, Griffon's Eye, Shadow Dancer, Steel Pillar, Steelrend, Stormspire, Templar's Might, The Cranium Basher, The Grandfather, Windforce
 

jag

Diabloii.Net Member
oh, didn't realize diablo gcs were same -- I knew nihlathaks were but he wasnt asking about them....
 

krischan

Europe Trade Moderator
kuafu said:
Diablo drops up to TC84, baal up to TC87, so diablo cannot drop any of the TC87 items (griffon, coa, tyrael, mang song, windforce, death cleaver, etc.) Baal can drop anything (except special items like anni, torch, etc.) in the game. You can find a complete list of all TC87 items here.
Also note, even though Diablo cannot drop everything, Chaos Sanctuary is a lvl85 area, so champions and bosses there *can* drop everything that baal can drop.
That's right, although Baal cannot drop anything. For some reason, no act boss can drop full rejuvenation potions :azn: The seal bosses cannot drop from TC87 IIRC. You can check that with ATMA if you want to go for sure.
 

kuafu

Diabloii.Net Member
krischan said:
That's right, although Baal cannot drop anything. For some reason, no act boss can drop full rejuvenation potions :azn: The seal bosses cannot drop from TC87 IIRC. You can check that with ATMA if you want to go for sure.
Actually like others have pointed out, I wasn't quite right about the champions and bosses in lvl85 areas. They can drop all unique/set items that baal can drop, but not for the rest items due to level differences (which determines the possible affix).
For the full rejuv potion, I never knew that before, but I just checked with ATMA and you're right. Now that you mentioned it, I think it's true that I've never seen them dropping in all the runs I've done (of course that's just an observation, not a proof; I haven't seen tyrael dropping either:smiley:).
 

krischan

Europe Trade Moderator
Only bosses and champions can drop full rejuvs. They seem to start dropping in act 5 nightmare. Regular monsters and minions can't drop them, act bosses can't drop them and I cannot remember that any super-unique with its own graphics (e.g. Nihlathak or Izual) ever dropped one for me.
 
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