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What are the important Barb breakpoints?

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Smashy, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. Smashy

    Smashy Banned

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    What are the important Barb breakpoints?

    I can't seem to find them.. hit recovery, run/walk.. what else it there?

    All charts, etc. are greatly appreciated.
     
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    Halciet IncGamers Member

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    r/w doesn't really have bps, and it's difficult to calculate it, though I have the faster cast and hit recovery bps in the tables section of my guide (sticky at top of forum), as well as swing bps charts for berserker axes and cbs using conc. Just scroll down near the bottom.

    We REALLY need to get Skit to rebuild the FAQ.

    -Hal
     
  3. wind

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    I'm not sure if anything has changed for r/w since 1.09, but here's a r/w breakdown from 1.09 off of Darius' PvP guide from the stragedy compendium:

    I hate math but cut and paste is doable :D
     
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    Okay so with lvl14 Increased Speed, how much non-skill-point speed do I need to reach this breakpoint? Is it 60% or was that example hypothetical?
     
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    It was hypothetical...

    Run/Walk doesn't work with breakpoints. (Just like Halciet said)

    It's a system of diminishing returns just like Mf.

    Ex: Getting from 50%R/W to 100%RW will do much more than going from 100%R/W to 150%R/W.

    Halciet made no mention off FBR and since you'll probably need it for all other chars as well, I'll direct you to this thread: http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=137779
     
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    Looks like you don't like to do the math as much as me.

    Darius is basically giving you the formula to figure out a barbs r/w, which gets complicated by the fact he receives it from two different ways. His combat skill and the items he wears. The only thing of interest I find is that faster r/w will benefit more from skill points than items.

    It's up to the player to figure out what works best for his gear and build.

    I'm not sure if any of it has changed for 1.10, but my guess, it's still the same.
     
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    The only problem with faster r/w is that eventually, you WILL desync. Hope you like black walls of nothingness, lol. Granted, that is with obscene r/w, but it can and will happen. Bear it in mind...
     
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    is there a ias breakpoint?
    i have sheals and a ias/ed but i dunt wanna socket it and it be a waste...
    ne info would be apprecaited,
     
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    It depends on the weapon skill. Whirlwind has fixed breakpoints:

    -10 and -35 for all one-handed weapons and all swords
    -10, -30, and -60 for all two-handed weapons

    Other skills, like conc, bash, berserk, and stun, are classified as "regular" attacks, and thus require a different amount of ias to hit certain bps depending on the base speed of the weapon. Use the calculator at the top of the forum to figure these out; just set your class to barb, then the weapon type, and finally plug in the base speed of the weapon type (as determined using diabloii.net item database; i.e. berserker axes are 0, ogre mauls are 10, etc) into the WSM field. THen hit "Show Table." The column on the far right is how much ias you need to hit each bp on the far left.

    -Hal
     
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    calculator?

    Please excuse my newbyness, but I can't seem to find that. :scratch:
     
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    Thanks for the link, it helps a lot. I still don't see any dropdown bars w/that name.
     
  13. Halciet

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    Scroll all the way up to the top of the page. There are 4 white boxes that have the words "Jus the FAQs, Ma'am" "Calculator/Stat Sheets" "Information" and "Network" in them.

    -Hal
     
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    Yes, that's the same page. What are you viewing it in? IE? Mozilla? It's there in both of those. I'm thinking it must either be your browser, or you're just not noticing it (it doesn't stand out very well).

    At the VERY top of the page, you should have the forum warning message: "Please do not abuse...warn before banning" and then below that a row of 4 white drop boxes, and then the actual forum panel with User CP/FAQ/Members List/Calender/New Posts/etc etc.

    Sorry, just trying to help you see it; these kinds of things get to me, since I'm in the IT sector over in our CS department, lol ;)

    -Hal
     
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    Grandar King of Trolls IncGamers Member

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    I understand. I'm a computer engineer doing IT for a... major American ISP, shall we say.

    All the same, it really isn' there. I can send a screen shot if you want. :) I'm using IE and Mozilla, and it isn't in either. I actually already checked that.

    Oh, and there is no warning message either.

    I understand the furstration, believe me, but it's no big deal in the long run. I'll just bug you for url's. :)
     
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    does anyone happen to know the hit recovery breakpoints?
     
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    Damn, I wonder what the hell is wrong with it...maybe some kind of plug-in issues or such, I dunno. *scratches head*

    Oh, and Cedrig, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, you can get the fhr tables from my guide, in the stickies (well, i guess the only sticky, at the moment) at the top of the forum.

    -Hal
     
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    grrrr
    as usuel i dunt know how to read a fuking graph...
    i put in barb
    2 hand other
    18(couldnt delete it i thought the wep speed went there?)
    i put nothing..and 0 second time(0 was wep spped)...

    i have no idea how to read the 3 columns of info...
    i was just sorta looking for a number...as in,XX ias would be a barbs breakpoint..
    but of course thats not how the cookie crumbles
    =\
    help neone?
     
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    On that table you now have, far left column is IAS needed, far right is what breakpoint you hit. What weapon were you calculating for?

    -Hal
     

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