I hate math but cut and paste is doableDarius said:Increased Speed
Tweaker: 5-12 - this skill has massive diminishing returns and there are numerous speed boosting items/charms available in D2X but its advantage is the fact that it adds to your base speed whereas item bonuses are based on that. That's why most allround PvP barbs have exactly 14 points in Inc. Speed with items, i.e. 10-12 base. Slvl 14 Increased Speed gives you 40% FR/W and after that you must spend two skill points for every percent of FR/W so it's not worth it. If your Inc. Speed is lvl 5 base, you should still be fast enough but since footspeed is absolutely crucial in so many duels, I recommend 14 points with items. For instance, if your only skill boost on items is +2 on Arreat's, go for slvl 12 base Inc. Speed.
What's the difference between Inc. Speed and FR/W on items? Why do I need high ISpeed?
Here we go. This is the formula for FR/W bonus on items:
Effective gear FR/W bonus = (120 * FR/W on items) / (120 + FR/W on items) = x
Skill FR/W bonus = y
Total FR/W = 1 + x/100 + y/100
Now, let's assume two barbs have 100% FR/W but one of them has 40% from skill (lvl 14 ISpeed) and 60% from items (boots, charms) and the other one has 25% from skill (lvl 4 ISpeed) and 75% from items. Let's calculate their total effective FR/W.
BARB 1: (120 * 60) / (120 + 60) = 40% items; 40% skill.
Total FR/W = 1 + 0.4 + 0.4 = 1.8 = 180% effective R/W
BARB 2: (120 * 75) / (120 + 75) = 46% items; 25% skill
Total FR/W = 1 + 0.46 + 0.25 = 1.71 = 171% effective R/W
As you can see, FR/W from skills (Inc. Speed for barbs) is more valuable than FR/W on items like charms, boots or amulets.
Looks like you don't like to do the math as much as me.Smashy said:Okay so with lvl14 Increased Speed, how much non-skill-point speed do I need to reach this breakpoint? Is it 60% or was that example hypothetical?
Scroll all the way up to the top of the page. There are 4 white boxes that have the words "Jus the FAQs, Ma'am" "Calculator/Stat Sheets" "Information" and "Network" in them.Grandar King of Trolls said:Thanks for the link, it helps a lot. I still don't see any dropdown bars w/that name.
Yes, that's the same page. What are you viewing it in? IE? Mozilla? It's there in both of those. I'm thinking it must either be your browser, or you're just not noticing it (it doesn't stand out very well).Grandar King of Trolls said:Nope, nothing of the sort. Not on my screen, anyway. http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=138363
That's the link I'm on. It's no biggie.
Grandar King of Trolls said:I understand. I'm a computer engineer doing IT for a... major American ISP, shall we say.
All the same, it really isn' there. I can send a screen shot if you want. I'm using IE and Mozilla, and it isn't in either. I actually already checked that.
Oh, and there is no warning message either.
I understand the furstration, believe me, but it's no big deal in the long run. I'll just bug you for url's.