[W] Giving away some pgems: pgems//1

muckus

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[W] Giving away some pgems: pgems//1

My first and only HC char just died, and I don't feel like playing HC anymore. It's all about rushing and baal runs and having people snag items before I barely see them. I was level 71 and never got ANYTHING good. Anyway, come to this game if you want some of my pgems. :)

*muckus
 

muckus

Diabloii.Net Member
Come on, don't make me go to the ingrate public noobs! :) TAKEME FREE PLZ!!! FREE!!1

I'll drop them on the ground and go get something to eat. Hopefully when I come back they'll be gone. :)
 

hc_ugajeremy

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I'm in. I created an account on west and thankfully a forum member stopped by so I gave them to him/her.

They're going to a good cause it seems.
 

muckus

Diabloii.Net Member
Cool, I'm glad they will get some use. :)

I was getting bored of hardcore anyway, so dying wasn't that big a deal. The concept of HC is cool, i.e. facing the challenge of only living once. But it turned into power-leveling, rushing, and baal runs and not actually "playing" the game. Admittedly, I died out of stupidity, but I feel good about that, because I was actually facing danger rather than playing like a sissy, which is what I feel most of the HC ladder is, IMHO. I don't think this forum will take offense to me saying that, because I have been seeing many posts here that reflect that sentiment.

The only way to get my roommate to actually "play" with me is to play softcore, and on my part I won't be as tempted to get caught up in ladder fever and exploit the game for the path of least resistance.

Too bad, though, because if the ladder wasn't so chock full of power-gamers I would have liked to compete for a top spot by actually playing the game.

P.S. And don't get me started on MH. What's the point of playing HC if you are going to depend on a hack to save you?
 

Cironir

Diabloii.Net Member
muckus said:
But it turned into power-leveling, rushing, and baal runs and not actually "playing" the game. Admittedly, I died out of stupidity, but I feel good about that, because I was actually facing danger rather than playing like a sissy, which is what I feel most of the HC ladder is, IMHO.
Softcore is not very different, just that you are confronted with even more annoying people who are extremely unskilled at playing in an organized manner. Sure, you have those in HC, too, but at least you don't have to deal with individuals who trigger all monsters in the area, die, say "LOL", run to their corpse, die again, say "ROFL", and so on. Quite a while ago when my first high level HC character died, I went back to softcore. I came back to HC after two hours of painful suffering. I doubt the situation has improved since. In fact, I know it hasn't, since whenever I set foot in a public channel, I see low levels asking if anyone can kill Hell Diablo for them.

As for playing like a sissy: That's a decision you make. My first HC Guardian was a base energy nova sorceress. I had just lost my pussyfooting Meteor sorceress at 75, so I was a bit in a "srcew this!" mood, and well, I played her fast, teleported into the middle of large groups, herded critters in the Chaos Sanctuary, hopped on top of Oblivion Knights, and so on. She never died, despite playing her in risky fashion. I believe that's the key to HC success anyway: You need to stop clinging to your character's life and just play. If you die, you die. The game gets boring after 85 anyway, so what's the big deal of rebuilding a character a few times? You learn something new as a result of every death. The alternative is ending up with fifty thousand SC characters that you are totally bored with.

If it's about losing stuff, well, yeah, it hurts. But playing HC taught me to "make do" with crappy equipment. Every item can be replaced, yes, even Tal's armour. I find that people (not you, just speaking in general here) are too hung up on high-end uniques anyway. Sure, they're nice, I like finding and having them, but they are not required to have fun.

Getting your first HC character to seventy is a good achievemet. Pat yourself on the back, you did well. Now start a new HC character and try to get to seventy-one, and show the dang game who owns it! :) Okay, okay, I shouldn't try to change your mind. If you prefer softcore, that's all right -- it's about fun, and if you have more fun in SC, then that's the mode for you. Just pointing out that HC doesn't have to be slow and eventless.

Too bad, though, because if the ladder wasn't so chock full of power-gamers I would have liked to compete for a top spot by actually playing the game.
Ladder is for people who really don't have any responsibilities. I usually try to be among the first 50 of my class by level 75, and then I stop pushing for a ladder position. Did that both times and ended up on #16 and #27. After that point it just gets too tedious. (And I have a job, friends and a woman.)

P.S. And don't get me started on MH. What's the point of playing HC if you are going to depend on a hack to save you?
I don't really want to defend MH here, because I do believe that it disfigured the game (both SC and HC) and turned it into a travesty, but it does offer some protection against TPPK and friends, which sadly Blizzard seems to continue to ignore. It also offers protection against those who put their own gaming experience over those of others, the so-called "legit PKers". Not a popular opinion, but I find PKing cheesy in any game that doesn't have serious penalties for PKs -- if a D2 PK would be labled as such and could be attacked anywhere without having to be hostiled, I'd have much more respect (any respect, that is) for PKs of any kind. Anyway, controversial topic, and most will disagree.
 

muckus

Diabloii.Net Member
Cironir, thanks for the response to my gripes. :) And thanks for the compliment on my lvl 70 dude.

You make sense, I do agree with you for the most part. You're right, it's my decision to play the way I do, and I want to play legitimately through the game, then I can. I guess the way people played me more because my roommate was one of them and refused to play anything but the "easy" way. I actually got into the top 100 on the druid ladder before I died and thought it was kind of cool until I realized that only meant I was in the top 100 at getting into Baal runs. :)

My experience indicated that HC players tended to take more shortcuts with their characters. The reason being, the more you skip, the less chance you have of dying, especially if you hide behind powerful characters in the Baal runs. But I do understand that SC has its own share of cheesiness. :)

So I guess I do leave the option open to play HC again and not worry about competition, and not worry about my roommate. The people here seem like a hardy bunch, so when that day comes around maybe I'll be able to hook up in a game with someone.

Losing stuff isn't a big deal to me, because my stuff is never that good to begin with. I don't make MF characters, and everyone else on bnet is quicker on the draw when it comes to snagging the lewt.

Anyway! Just also want to say that you all are pretty great, because even though I am not playing HC now and only recently discovered this forum, I like to hang here.
 

cyradis2003

Diabloii.Net Member
muckus said:
My experience indicated that HC players tended to take more shortcuts with their characters. The reason being, the more you skip, the less chance you have of dying, especially if you hide behind powerful characters in the Baal runs. But I do understand that SC has its own share of cheesiness. :)

Anyway! Just also want to say that you all are pretty great, because even though I am not playing HC now and only recently discovered this forum, I like to hang here.
You have some good points and if you were playing pubbies then yes, you are absolutely correct. You might want to think about joining an untwinked team or starting one here on the forum, that way you get to play the game through with nice people and the drop sharing is even.

The whole hiding thing only works if you have high lvl friends or no fear of pk'ers. My biggest char is lvl 51 now and she has never entered a public game. My other baby lvled till 9 in a "start new" game but I started getting a little suspiscious of my companions - they were obviously whispering each other and they would go afk at the hard parts. Then they hit 9 right after me and hostiled while I was playing with the evil tree monkeys. I grabbed the scroll and ran a group of archers over to the wp and left.

I got whispered later that this was very uncool as it killed both of them and they were just kidding with the hostile. :innocent: oops?

Wow ... I went way off the topic there .... at any rate welcome to the forum!! Always great to have nice new people join!
 

Baboon

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Cironir said:
Softcore is not very different, just that you are confronted with even more annoying people who are extremely unskilled at playing in an organized manner. Sure, you have those in HC, too, but at least you don't have to deal with individuals who trigger all monsters in the area, die, say "LOL", run to their corpse, die again, say "ROFL", and so on. Quite a while ago when my first high level HC character died, I went back to softcore. I came back to HC after two hours of painful suffering. I doubt the situation has improved since. In fact, I know it hasn't, since whenever I set foot in a public channel, I see low levels asking if anyone can kill Hell Diablo for them.
Well said, exactly the same expercience here. Once I made a softcore character by mistake, didn't check the box. I was shocked with all the people dying and their partymembers laughing at them. After a while I realised they kept running around while dead and I immediately deleted the char :)
 
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