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  1. Canister

    Canister IncGamers Member

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    Vote: Most prefered Bow (not including windforce and BOTD)

    Please Vote which is the most prefered Bow for PIT runs and act 4 runs
    All are socketed with NEF and using LAYING OF HANDS

    Upgraded Lycanders
    EagleHorn
    GoldStrike


    Any commets will be greatly appreciated.
     
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    lone_wolf Diablo: IncGamers Member

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    well white members cant vote but i say upgraded lycanders aim

    because its gives you huge bonuses and it deals quite some damage too
     
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    Snbzon IncGamers Member

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    upgrade the eaglehorn and it will be prefect =)
     
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    Krunch_Kidney IncGamers Member

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    eaglehorn cannot be upgraded cause it is already an elite. Well, there's a thread that demonstrates that goldstrike is 2nd only to windforce and botd for pit runs. With the 50%ias on the bow, you don't have to worry so much bout speed and can boost your mf, plus I just think the bow is really cool
     
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    lextalionis IncGamers Member

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    Although Lycanders would be better for casters. And while you can't upgrade an eaglehorn, you can upgrade Goldstrike. The upgraded Goldstrike is a great poor man's WF or BoTD. Against Demons, its pretty close and it has great mods. Go with that.
     
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    Krunch_Kidney IncGamers Member

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    Actually, a regular goldstrike has been shown to be better than an upgraded goldstrike due to the saved stat pts that can be placed in dex.
     
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    lextalionis IncGamers Member

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    Wow, that's surprising. But good to know. And I can definately understand the math on that.
     
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    Xiamet IncGamers Member

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    Where's WWS? An upgraded WWS with good sockets can easily rival any of these bows....even in the Pit.

    -X
     
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    I completely agree, upgraded WWS rocks!
     
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    tydon IncGamers Member

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    Actually, no. WWS is not in the same ballpark as shown by the calculations recently.

    100% Breath of the Dying crusader
    81% Windforce (shael - 79% if clean)
    73% Eaglehorn (shael - 56% if clean)
    71% Lycander's Aim (shael - 69% if clean) - note that you won't have str enough for either Tal's armor or Skullder's (better than Eagle at 0 or 20% ias, though, and overtakes Eagle at clvl 92 for 10% ias)
    70% Lycander's Aim 84 str (shael - 68% if clean) - note that you won't have str enough for Skullder's
    69% Goldstrike (shael or clean) (overtakes Eagle at clevel 95 for 0% ias, and at clevel 98 for 20% ias)
    66% Buriza (shael - 59% if clean) (overtakes GSA at clevel 90 for 0 or 10% ias from gear and at clevel 93 for 20% ias, overtakes Eagle at clevel 91 for 0% ias and at 94 for 10 and 20% ias, overtakes Lyc at clvl 94 - lvl 91 for the 84 str Lyc - for 0 and 10% ias and at clvl 98 - 96 for 84 str Lyc - for 20% ias)
    66% Upgraded Lycander's Aim (shael - 65% if clean)
    64% Upgraded Goldstrike (shael or clean)
    62% "real" Goldstrike (shael or clean)
    61% Upgraded Riphook (shael) - note that you won't have str enough for either Tal's armor or Skullder's, and at 0% ias, this is the worst bow
    57% Upgraded Buriza (shael - 51% if clean) (will overtake some of the bows at higher levels, but as the unupgraded version does better - and is cheaper - I haven't bothered finding the exact levels)
    53% Upgraded Witchwild String (2xshael)

    For pits, without calculating in DS, CS, and piercing, but calculating in AMP.

    As you see, it falls short.
     
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    YogiRat IncGamers Member

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    Ah-oh! They are on to us. They know that us Witchyzons have been doing it all along with smoke and mirrors :lol: Seriously though, not factoring in Deadly Strike is a major flaw in that study. It may be more important than Amp to a Witchwild user.
     
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    If you have high critical, then DS is basically a small small bonus, as it would come in to effect only a small overall % of the time.
     

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