vit stats in HC made easy

DemonAbuse

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Im a newbie using a ice/bow amazon in hardcore . out of 5 points when i level how many should i send to vit? im dieing too fast and maybe putting too much in dex.
 

Noodle

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What level are you, and where are you in the game? How much life leach do you have? What about knockback? A bowazon should be pretty safe, especially if you remember to summon a decoy out at the edge of the screen to effectively scout for you by drawing monsters to it.

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DemonAbuse

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I just died so im starting at lvl 1, i dont like to play with any other character or use melee attacks but im not sure if a ice amazon is a good choice since ive heard bad things

@ lvl 28 (when i died)
I had put many points into cold arrow about 14
3 each to into dae
3 to penetrate
3 critical strike
1 slow missles

I intend to dump most points into into freezing arrow and valk after lvl 30 a few to pierce

I use my left clicker to shoot normal mana free arrows and right click for my mana draining cold arrows, this seemed to work great with any decent bow and although i dont have good crowd control however I like the punch my arrows have. its tough @ 1st however i rather put most into cold arrow with little crowd control then(@ lvl 30) all that will add to my freezing arrow. your opinion noodle?

I was splitting stat points between dex and vit @ 4dex to 1vit- rarely 2 to vit when i lvl up, but I keep dieing (for silly stuff)and Its very frustrating in hardcore! I wanna know if im not allocating points right in general. im waiting on this info before i play agian.
 

Noodle

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What you're doing should work, although it will be very gear dependent, so you'll need a nice bow. I can't stress enough how useful Decoy can be - cast it at the edge of the screen in the direction you want to go, and let it attract all the monsters while you plink away from a safe distance. If you're facing a tough pack of ranged attackers, cast it behind them. Once you get used to it, you'll find it indispensable. Good luck!

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DemonAbuse

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so what to do about dieing? i was thinking of low lvl grinding until I can find 2 rubys and soccett them on bodygear?? what do you think? how do I distribute stat points exactly? how much dex is too much? i always seems to be over 90 % hit rate with my AR when I hover with my pointer on cold arrow AR i dont find too much stat point instruction for HC amazons so im uncertain.
 

Noodle

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With good use of Decoy, you shouldn't be getting hit much at all. As far as stats go, I generally go with enough Strength and Dexterity to wear my gear, and the rest to Vitality. (If I'm going with a build with a shield, enough Dexterity for max block.)

Dexterity is an inefficient way to get attack rating - try a few pieces of the Angelic set instead. As you level up, your chance to hit naturally rises.

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DemonAbuse

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so would you say a ratio of 3 dex and 2
With good use of Decoy, you shouldn't be getting hit much at all. As far as stats go, I generally go with enough Strength and Dexterity to wear my gear, and the rest to Vitality. (If I'm going with a build with a shield, enough Dexterity for max block.)

Dexterity is an inefficient way to get attack rating - try a few pieces of the Angelic set instead. As you level up, your chance to hit naturally rises.

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im still unsure about the ratio you mean ,since almost everything else on bow amazon ive read so far says pump up dex I thought dex added damage as wellas AR? some build dont even add any to vit ( must not be HC!!!!) I dont know how much to put into strength either exactly? what do you think about the body or head gear and 2 rubys?
 

Noodle

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Dexterity will add to the physical damage you do, but not the cold damage. If you're a cold-centric build, it's not likely to be meaningful. With a Hardcore build, I put survivability at a higher priority than pure damage anyway.

A couple rubies in your gear could help in the short term. Once you're level 40+, I think you'll find it less significant.
 

DemonAbuse

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im maxing cold arrow with my right click and normal arrow with my left click and i use both so I guess i do need dex, Cold arrow has some physical damage so i guess i overall need dex ( am i wrong about cold having some phyical damage?)

BTW adding more to vit this time and not coming close to dieing

Bows. are you super pickey with socceted bows ? I have good runes etc soccett but Im level 19 and cant seem to find anything better then a normal 3 soccetted long bow, should i just go with what i got? or hold out? im not using anything that would help my find magical items in hopes for more socceted drops. thanks
 

YogiRat

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Ok, I'm coming in late on this. Yes, 3dex to 2vit is the way to go but you need strength also. I add 1str,2dex,2vit every other level. Exceptional and elite bows require a fair amount of strength to use, so just dex and vit won't work.

On the passive tree, don't bother putting more that one point into D/A/E, those skills are just not worth it. As already mentioned, penetrate, decoy and the Valk are much more useful. Critical strike can a use an extra point or two also.

Have you thought about how you going to deal with cold immunes?
 

DemonAbuse

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Thank you for answering, 3 to 2 has been working great in normal, but its good to hear from an experienced player. about cold immunes : i intend to alternate normal arrow,saves n regens mana, sometimes does even more damage then my cold arrow with all the cold points i pump into that skill.

can you explain how dex effects my elemental and normal arrow damage, also does penetrate and AR effect damage?

I find D A E helpful i feel those 8,9 points go a long way I try to never reach for over 30 percent because of dim returns, same for critical strike, however I think i should put more there, what % is a good point to stop at ?
 

YogiRat

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Ok, rune words or just plain runes are better than gems in bow. Edge (Tir + Tal + Amn) can made in a 3socket bow and can be used at level 25. It should carry you through normal and into nightmare. You really need a physical bow
skill, either multi or strafe to deal with cold immunes though. Straight arrows will not cut it at higher levels.
 

DemonAbuse

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good advice on the edge bow, i made it a few days ago as my 1st rune word i also made a RAL RAL RAL which isnt shabby question about that, does all that fire damage from ral transfer over to cold arrow when i fire them?

why wont normal arrows cut it if im using FA/pierce as crowd control? normal arrows deal more damage then multi.
 
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