Viability of a shaman in PvP

nicro tower

Diablo: IncGamers Member
PvP Summon penalty is 1/2 whereas PvP penalty is normally 1/6.

Also, my questions is this: How does this build counter, oh, say 10 second MB? Just resummon bear? I've pissed countless Bear users *coughpussydisgracetoDruidstownhuggers* by simply MBing the Bear once, then when they resummon I do it again. You'll run out of mana long before I do.
ya that kinda sucks, one mb,smite,warcry or any other stun will disable a bear... 1 or 2 boneprisons will as well...



 

slothkin

Diabloii.Net Member
99 fcr id say. Thats a pretty good minimum for any pvp caster druid simply for telespeed. Might be able to pull off the breakpoint below since most moves are timered but id aim for at least 99.

And yes he did mean mindblast. That would stun the bear making it unable to do **** for 10+seconds. Any stunning attack could do this and i think this build whould find it pretty tough to beat a good warcry barb(the jokers of pvp)
 

superjayson

Diabloii.Net Member
PvP Summon penalty is 1/2 whereas PvP penalty is normally 1/6.

Also, my questions is this: How does this build counter, oh, say 10 second MB? Just resummon bear? I've pissed countless Bear users *coughpussydisgracetoDruidstownhuggers* by simply MBing the Bear once, then when they resummon I do it again. You'll run out of mana long before I do.
haha thats what i do to stupid town guarders by shock waving their bear. kind of makes the build pointless.



 

Narcotic

Banned
I think he meant mind blast.

I'm actually considering giving this build a try, what would be the optimal charm and FCR setup for it?
99 FCR against casters and paladins who charge, no exceptions. Hoto spirit, magefists (these gloves are godly for this build since +1 fire skills works for druid fire), and 1 cast ring is what I'd recommend. You can mess around with a cast ammy or arachs but I personally would die without my dungos. Drop down to the lower fcr breakpoint when you use your SS.

I don't quite know the mix of summon GCs to Ele GCs but make sure one of them is fhr and that you also have a 1 fhr SC to hit 99 (if you have dungos on).


 

jakotaco

Diabloii.Net Member
I wanna see what a shaman does against a smiter or WW Barb.
Fissure ofc, but it's a pretty tough duel as these chars generally have high hp, resists and that one mistake can potentially lead to either you being dead or the opponent leeching back to full... If you manage to get them charging next to your bear that will often be enough to finish them as their huge def and block won't help much when charging.

I recently made a shaman, great fun. Works in pubs but I am by no means "clearing pubs" but on the other hand. Can't say I really ever did. :tongue:

Though my setup is currently providing good breakpoints and much power to the bear I will probably have to try getting some better fire damage and -res setup.

Pure fire would probably end up as up to twice the fissure damage at the cost of some defensive stats and maybe 3k bear damage.

I am considering splitting it up into a fire druid and a shocksummoner, but until now I enjoy having both build in one. :smiley:



 

Cppo-The-Wild

Diabloii.Net Member
99 FCR against casters and paladins who charge, no exceptions. Hoto spirit, magefists (these gloves are godly for this build since +1 fire skills works for druid fire), and 1 cast ring is what I'd recommend. You can mess around with a cast ammy or arachs but I personally would die without my dungos. Drop down to the lower fcr breakpoint when you use your SS.

I don't quite know the mix of summon GCs to Ele GCs but make sure one of them is fhr and that you also have a 1 fhr SC to hit 99 (if you have dungos on).
the good fire ele druids i've met haven't used 99 fcr bp. it's because without massive facet usage (6 facet weapon etc) your spells won't do enough damage even to those who don't use sorb but just stack res/has some dr. (exception might be against bow zons for example cause they go down easier and need fcr to catch them)

instead get some fr/w and settle with less fcr. oh and now that i think of it i don't remember dueling a shaman. just fire druids with 1 in grizzly.

btw i've built a fire druid without massive facet gear and it sucked badly. and no it wasn't because of my dueling skills it was because my spells wouldn't scratch a single opponent with good res/dr aka most pvp builds

-Cppo
 

Valvolux

Diabloii.Net Member
Good job getting banned again Claniraq, I see you have no dignity left.

To the OP, Shamans can be okay, but don’t believe Claniraq’s hype about them. Any good dueler should/will demolish you with ease. And before you ask, yes I have a shaman and have played him for many years blah blah…
 
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