Very Important Question

[Abigail]

Very Important Question

I had been thinking about the best weapon selection
for my new barb and came up with an idea ..

I need your help to know which weapon
will be better both damage-wise and attack rating-wise
against a melee char ( Storm on one hand ).He'll be wearing :

Enigma
Arreat
Verdungos
Gore riders
Draculs
Storm

Situation 1 :
Highlords + Eth Zod'ed DC (279 ed) + 2 raven rings

Situation 2 :
Highlords + Eth Zod'ed DC (279 ed) + 2 angelic rings

Situation 3 :
Grief Ba (with enough ias to reach last bp and dmg like 380 ) +
Angelic rings and angelic amu ..

As has been discussed on another thread, eth dc with highlords
means doing double dmg on every hit therefore will probably
connect higher dmg than grief i guess. But if i use grief with angelics
i will get much higher (will it be really that much higher) a.r. right ?
So if there is not an important difference a.r. - wise, then either
situation 1 or situation 2 will be better overall ...

Could someone explain which choice would be better against
a melee char by giving me some numbers ??
I'd be thankful.

Btw : This will be a standar ww barb build for pvp
and on each situation, only amus-rings-and weapon will vary.

Thanks a lot

 

[Abigail]

Omg sry i've made a HUGE mistake.

Angelic rings do not give a.r. without the amulet.
So situation 2 is out of consideration.


So there will be too much a.r. sacrifice i guess.

Anyway, still want to hear your suggestions.



Thnx

 

[Gfighter88]

heh i still like the idea of the eth dc but the other mods on grief seems to make it more desireable but your kinda really depending on a perfect ias roll when you make the weapon and the fact you have to repair it alot is annoying but i think id go with grief if you get a perfect roll.

 

[Zangeif]

The deadly strike from highlords does nothing. With mastery and Gore Riders and the 66% from eth DC, you easily hit the maximum of 95%

 

[[exile]]

Critical Strike and Deadly Strike don't simply add up, Zangeif... in fact, for a DS build, Mastery lowers your final chance to deal double damage, if you follow the equation on the Arreat Summit.

I've tried DC before and only near level 90 WITH HIGHLORD'S can you achieve 95%+ chance to do double damage. Just wearing Gores will not get you that high...

 

[Zangeif]

Oh, Ok I didn't know that.

Anyway, reaching 95% isn't a must, I think that the extra AR from angelics would benefit you much more than an extra 20% DS. You can't deal double damage if you aren't hitting them.

 

[[exile]]

I forgot this was for PvP.

By all means, wear the Angelic combo.

 

[RTB]

The deadly strike from highlords does nothing. With mastery and Gore Riders and the 66% from eth DC, you easily hit the maximum of 95%

Deadly Strike is not capped at 95%. I must've said this hundreds of times already, yet noone listens.

 

[Abigail]

" Critical Strike and Deadly Strike don't simply add up, Zangeif... in fact, for a DS build, Mastery lowers your final chance to deal double damage, if you follow the equation on the Arreat Summit.

I've tried DC before and only near level 90 WITH HIGHLORD'S can you achieve 95%+ chance to do double damage. Just wearing Gores will not get you that high... "

I got your point [exile] after checking the formula on arreat summit.
So u saying that building a DS barb is not viable right ?
And that i should stick with eth botd ba or a grief ba (cause i'll be using
doom or beast on the other hand agains casters ) and use angelics ...

Yes this will be better i guess. But still cant decide sacrificing +30 to all
from botd to have a much greater dmg with grief will be the best choice.

 

[[exile]]

A DS Barb is definitely viable. Back in my poorer days, non-eth DC was my favourite weapon of all time -- I calculated that it dealt about the same damage as an eBotD BA if double-damage triggers.

I forgot to calculate DS in the eBotD but I was ecstatic anyways.

I'd personally choose Grief over eBotD because of the massive damage boost and inherent DS mod. But if you're stat-point intensive and feel like going all-out with Vitality, definitely go with eBotD.

To tell you the truth, I think life doesn't matter as much if you're killing your opponents much faster than they are killing you. It's wrong to make general statements like that, I know, but... I can't stress the importance of reducing the number of hits it takes to kill an opponent. Even 1 hit less could make you survive a lot longer.

 

[ToThePoint]

Critical Strike and Deadly Strike don't simply add up, Zangeif... in fact, for a DS build, Mastery lowers your final chance to deal double damage, if you follow the equation on the Arreat Summit.

I've tried DC before and only near level 90 WITH HIGHLORD'S can you achieve 95%+ chance to do double damage. Just wearing Gores will not get you that high...

getting more of either DS or mastery WILL NOT reduce your total chance for a double damage strike. You are not using the forumula correctly.
DS has a reduced relative increase vs a nonmastery char but it will get an increased chance all the way up to 100% DS.
Whether or not the increase is worth it is a different matter.