venom vs poison chms question

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venom vs poison chms question

I see that in all the pvp guides I ve read so far it is suggested to max venom. Would someone please explain to me the the difference in effect between maxed venom which adds about 1k poison dam vs lets say having four 290s in your inventory. Is it the timing effect of venom that makes it more lethal? Thanks
 

Shade

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The damage from poison charms in your inventory will be applied over around 2-10 seconds or so (depending on duration and target's duration-reduction), but the damage from Venom is applied over .4 seconds (or less, if they have dur-reduction) - so you can apply it repeatedly within that timespan.

edit: If you can get a higher rate (dmg/frame) from posion charms and items than Venom, go for it - but it's quite difficult to achieve that.
 

create2xs

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combining the two (poison charms and venom) is not recomended since the charms would increase the duration of venom making it less effective?
 

Lunatic

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create2xs said:
combining the two (poison charms and venom) is not recomended since the charms would increase the duration of venom making it less effective?
The poison duration is fixed @ 10 frames if you use venom , no matter how much charms or other poison sources you use.

As for the 4 * 290 (gogo ****ing dupe charms btw) vs high lvl venom. 1k venom dmg does this dmg in 10 frames. Which means you do 2,5k poison dmg per second if you can apply venom 2,5 times each second. 4 * 290 pd does a total of 1160 dmg , but this is over 10 seconds. Which is 116 dmg per second.

2500 dmg per sec VS 116 dmg per second. Not a hard thing to see what does more dmg.

Even 40 * 290 means you do 1160 poison dmg per second. which is 11600 over 10 sec.

Keep in mind for pvp this can prove more usefull against larger packs , since you can attack each monster within 10 sec and then attack the first one again , which means all monsters are poisoned (if your reaction time is good enough). For pvm you can only hit 1 person (even if you do team duels you can only focus on 1 oponent at a time) , so venom will outdmg even 40 * 290 really easy there.
 

Lunatic

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The last part from my last msg has 1 error in it. :)

Keep in mind for pvp this can prove more usefull against larger packs , since you can attack each monster within 10 sec and then attack the first one again , which means all monsters are poisoned (if your reaction time is good enough).
The pvp part should be pvm. :p The rest is correct though.
 

Shade

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a[z]n FrIeND said:
So is it a good idea to use poison charms and venom?
Not really - the increase in damage is usually negligible. You're better off using other elemental damages if you plan to use Venom.
 

Lunatic

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Lets say your venom does 500 dmg over 0.4 sec (some fictive value). Then a 100 dmg over 5 sec poison sc will add an asskicking 8 dmg over 0.4 sec (100 / 5 / 2.5). So you will do 508 poison dmg over 0.4 sec. That's not really worth it if you ask me.
 
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