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Venom prebuff question

Discussion in 'Assassin' started by FrozenSolid, Mar 18, 2005.

  1. FrozenSolid

    FrozenSolid IncGamers Member

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    Venom prebuff question

    My current dmg with normal attack is 409 - 790.
    I have 1 point in Venom, with +skills that's slvl 12 which adds 245 - 265).
    But after prebuffing I switch back to my main claws and the dmg shows 609 - 1010.
    Thats 45 less psn dmg on min & max and clearly not + 245 - 265. The added dmg is in fact 200 - 220.
    So is there a dmg penalty on prebuffing venom?
    Thx.
     
  2. saito

    saito IncGamers Member

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    you can't brebuff venom it gives you the dmg of setup that you are using your dmg will always decrease to that what gear you have on you
     
  3. RTB

    RTB IncGamers Member

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    Venom can be prebuffed, but if you had Trang's gloves or other +% dmg on when prebuffing and when checking you didn't there will be a dmg difference, because of the way +% elemental dmg works (as a mastery).
     
  4. Lunatic

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    Here's some calculations to make it "visable" why your venom dmg is lower. Keep in mind these are some fictive numbers , which are easier to work with. :D The formula to calculate your total dmg is the following.
    TVenom = Bvenom * (1 + 100 / %psnskill dmg) * (1 + 100 / %psnskill dmg)

    1)
    1000 venom dmg
    100% psn skill dmg with prebuffing.
    100% psn skill dmg when attacking.

    When you cast venom , you have 100% poison skill dmg. This means your venom dmg will become 2000.
    Once you hit your oponent , the %psn skill dmg gets applied again. This makes it 4000 dmg.

    So in total you will be doing 4000 poison dmg coming from venom.

    2)
    1000 venom dmg
    100% psn skill dmg with prebuffing.
    50% psn skill dmg when attacking.

    The first part about prebuffing stays the same. 1000 * 2 = 2000 dmg when prebuffing.
    But now since you switched out some equipment , your total %psn skill dmg is lower , it's only 50%. This means you do 2000 * 1.5 = 3000 venom dmg in total when you attack your oponent.

    The last part shows were the loss of dmg is gone too.
     
  5. FrozenSolid

    FrozenSolid IncGamers Member

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    Hm, ok. So venom can be prebuffed with just +skills? Or is it like saito said that it will decrease to what slvl I have on my main weapon hands? Cus when casting venom w/ and w/out shadow claws the dmg shown is different.
    I know for in fact that I dont use any +% psn dmg.
     
  6. Lunatic

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    Venom can be pre-buffed. +skills only matter when you cast it. %psn skill dmg has the same mastery bug like enchant has. That's why it can "decrease" your dmg when the %psn skill dmg is different when pre-buffing and in battle gear.
     
  7. FrozenSolid

    FrozenSolid IncGamers Member

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    Ok, so any idea why the psn dmg is lower than shown on the skill icon?

    FrozenSolid slaps Lunatic around a bit with a large trout
    Hey look, I can do it from here =D
     
  8. Lunatic

    Lunatic IncGamers Member

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    Because you're looking wrong? Or you have other poison sources , which will drop alot in dmg.
     

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