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Valentines...or not

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by zodiac66, Jan 28, 2004.

  1. zodiac66

    zodiac66 IncGamers Member

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    Valentines...or not

    I can't provide a link to this, but on the late, local news last night there was a story about how a school wants to ban Valentine's Day. The story went on to speak about religious conflict as well as the idea that the unpopular students receive no valentines. One school came up with the idea to give unsigned valentines to others.

    What do you think of this?
     
  2. Geeno

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    Meh, same old stuff schools always get conflicted with.
     
  3. tarnok

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    Bah, humbug!
     
  4. LunarSolaris

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    Touchy subject... because it's hard to "make" someone give... or counterproductive anyhow.

    I would think that there are some more general ways that Valentines can be celebrated as opposed to the traditional hading out of cards - but I dunno how that would look exactly. I do suppose I feel somewhat bad for the kids that do end up getting left out via the traditional method, but I hesitate to dictate how people should celebrate the holiday to compensate for that.
     
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    I hated Valentines day in school. It shouldn't be brought up in school in my opinion. Is St Patricks day celebrated in school?
     
  6. Geeno

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    Only by the drunk at heart.
     
  7. Munch

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    I went to a Catholic grade school, and we celebrated everything. Is Valentine's typically celebrated in public schools?

    Anyway, I think it's a terrible idea for grade schools to have Valentine's Day. It's just a massive school sanctioned popularity contest. Grade school is tough enough for some kids to socialize in, let alone having a day where your social standing is physically expressed.
     
  8. zodiac66

    zodiac66 IncGamers Member

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    The problem at hand is that the unpopular students get no valentines. As an adult, it probably wound bother anyone, but imagine being a 1st grader who has an empty bag. The building of self-esteem is very important to youngsters. Not just from parents, from peers. To sit there and see an empty bag has to be horrible.
     
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    That's the main issue that I have with it - the sanctioned popularity contest as Munch put it, and with regards to self-esteem as you point out Zodiac. That's why I suggested perhaps a different way for celebrating the holiday aside from giving out cards.
     
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    When I was in grade school in the heady days of the early 80's, the V-day rule was everyone got cards. Even the smelly kid, the dirty kid, the jerk, all of us.

    Interesting fun fact: did you know the heart shape used so much in Valentines day cards looks more like a prostate than a heart. This is the main reason I don't celebrate.
     
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    I personally think these things suck. We handed out roses here from grade 7 through 12. I never got a single one and I´m still bitter.

    There´s obviously no way of stopping people from giving gifts but there´s no sense, that I can see, in institutionalizing a popularity contest. I can´t understand why schools arrange or actively support VD (hehehe...) when they know what it means.

    Valentines day celebration does not contribute to either education or a good enviroment for all in schools. I don´t see what place it has on school property and time.
     
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    You wouldn't see me complaining about a banning of Valentines Day in any school that I attended.

    But then, I am a bitter and twisted Englishman who never got a damn card. Even when I was young and moderately less ugly.

    *sobs in the corner*




    But seriously, I think that banning it is a bit over the top, but I cannot see any good way of being able to make it more inclusive. Perhaps it is a sign of the times that things are the way they are, and so long as children are the shallow and conceited beings that we know them to be Valentines Day will always be unpleasent to a great may kids. Kids who have done nothing wrong but not be in the popular crowd.
     
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    At the school I went to as a child you had to give one of those little valentines day cards to everyone or not give any at all, you'd get into trouble if you do otherwise.
     
  14. Munch

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    *insert requisite Ralph Wiggum quote here*
     
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    I Choo Choo Choose You!!!
     
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    *zodi runs around handing out roses*

    You all deserve a rose!!
     
  17. Intolerance

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    I personally don't partake in Valentine's day. What need has my wife for overpriced roses and/or candy one day a year when I shower her with love every day?
     
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    I think valentines day cannot be banned, although the school could stop supporting it. If you bring a valentines day gift for your friend, thats fine, but valentines parties emphasize the people left out.......

    I think that it is a great time for guys who dont have girls, as it is a good time to ask girls out.
     
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    just have kids draw names out of a hat, and that's there valentine.. if there's an imbalance in girl to boy ratio, then one or a few girls or boys will have to give out 2 valentines instead of 1.

    works for me.
     
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    I don't think Valentine's should be observed or celebrated in school. If a student wants to give another student a valentine, go right ahead. I just don't like the idea of schools sponsoring and heading up such activities.

    Just like has been said, it's a sanctioned popularity contest that will leave some egos inflated and some devastated. If they want to give valentines, let them do it on their own to whom they will.

    As far as adults go, I HATE the commercialism and advertising that goes with Valentine's day. Way to make a guy feel like crap if he doesn't go blow a paycheck on blatantly overpriced flowers. I can get her my wife flowers anytime of the year without the grating commercialism that surrounds our favorite holidays. I used to really like valentines day until I realized the retail world just uses it to play on our emotions to make money, it's disgusting and I refuse to play into it. My wife will know she's loved and doesn't need a day devoted to spending MONEY on your loved one to know that.

    I have no problem with doing something special that day but I flat out refuse to give in and ignorantly buy what all the hype and commercials say Valentine's day is. To me it's a holiday for going out of your way to make the day full of love and affection to your most beloved person. Someone please explain what that has to do with money.
     

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